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02-22-2017 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Don't mind me
Thanks, what ranges did you use?
Doug:
value: QQ-AA and AK
Bluffs: AJo, 54s-98s, 86s-T8s, mix of suited broadway junk, A2s-A9s,
I think that's more bluffs than optimal. I added more as people think Doug is unbalanced towards bluffs here.

Torelli:66-QQ, AQo-AKo, AJs-AQs, KQs, small mix of suited cards, and some slow played premiums.

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Originally Posted by Don't mind me

Are you talking about OOP here? How many AA combos did you give him? IP obv. can't c/c anything.
ALERT: I'm an idiot.

I forgot to put hero (Doug) in position in the solver.

I gave Doug all combos of AA. I think 3-betting is always the more +EV move (unless there are specific game conditions). Snowie agrees w/ me for what it's worth.


Doug IP
Anyway, with Doug in position in the solver, Doug C-bets more value hands, thus he actually bluffs with 86 of clubs 64% on the flop. I am sorry Doug.

Torelli calls w/ JcJs 100%. He folds jacks w/o a spade almost 100%.

On the turn, Torelli checks 100% of his range, and Doug barrels with 86 of clubs 100% of the time, Torelli, as before, folds jacks 100%.

On the river, Doug gives up with 86 100%, and uses some 76s, 87s, and 97s as bluffs (he bets spades 100%, which is counter-intuitive, but I guess they don't block a lot of spades in Torelli's preflop calling range) . He value bets his remaining 54s, A2s, A3s, A7s, AJs, AKo, AA 100%. Torelli folds KQs, AQo w/ a diamond ace, AQ of diamonds, AJ of diamonds. He calls with his remaining AJ-AQ, AKo and 77 (which is why we use hands with 7s as a bluff). He calls w/ some other hands, but they don't make up much of his range.

As for AA IP:
Doug bets it 53% on the flop, 100% on the turn, and 100% on the river. This makes more sense.

TL;DR
I'm an idiot.
Doug SHOULD use some 86s of clubs on the flop and turn as bluffs, but give up on the river. He should bluff with some 7s in his hand on all three streets.
Torelli should fold 100% on the turn with jacks in position or out of position.

Last edited by AM34; 02-22-2017 at 09:58 AM.
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02-22-2017 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by WCGRider
Also, I think we all know I have not done myself any favors to win over the hearts and minds of the panel that decides who gets the awards or not (#EntrepenuerLife, More Rake is better, etc). However at the end of the day, if the AMERICAN POKER AWARDS are not even going to recognize the American who has done the most to grow in the last year, it calls into question the legitimacy of the organization imo.
this.
qft
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02-22-2017 , 03:43 PM
Hey, Doug, can you put out more videos burying Daniel Negreanu six feet und--

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02-22-2017 , 03:46 PM
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Hey, Doug, can you put out more videos burying Daniel Negreanu six feet und--

Was just about to post this myself. Tyty.
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02-22-2017 , 05:33 PM
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Hey, Doug, can you put out more videos burying Daniel Negreanu six feet und--

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02-22-2017 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by WCGRider
As always want to thank everyone for the kind words, lot of nice stuff being said here about the channel and the content I have been putting out.

As far as the American Poker Awards go, it is clearly ridiculous that I wasn't even nominated in the categories of Media/Content/Twitch. You can make some reasonable counter arguments for each category, but at the end of the day, I got the most (1) unique views across twitch/youtube in 2016 and didnt manage to get a top 4 nomination across the board. That just seems totally ridiculous to me.

Also, (2) I think we all know I have not done myself any favors to win over the hearts and minds of the panel that decides who gets the awards or not (#EntrepenuerLife, More Rake is better, etc). However at the end of the day, if the AMERICAN POKER AWARDS are not even going to recognize the American who has done the most to grow in the last year, it calls into question the legitimacy of the organization imo.

As far as the twitch streamer nomination goes, it sort of doesnt matter, as you have to give the win to Jcarver. Also the rest of the guys are good guys who have worked hard to develop their brands, but again, I averaged 2nd-3rd highest viewership all year and had the largest twitch score twice. If that isn't worthy of a nomination for top 4, they may want to consider the system.

All in all, I don't think its a big deal. Many people don't even know what these awards are, and the people that do have to understand at some level, if you are not going to include the people who should actually be nominated for awards, why even have them to begin with.

(3) I will say I am rooting for Joe Ingram to take down podcast of the year, although who knows if he is going to be victorious over Dnegs, who did six podcasts over a year and received a nomination (congrats!).
(1) While I do agree that you clearly should have been nominated (note, I'm uninformed as you/fees/Joey stuff are the only poker content I consume), do you think unique views is a good way to decide? Having decent-sized giveaways and spending on ads is going to influence this a lot, so you can make an argument that using that metric makes it unfair for someone who isn't or never has been a high stakes boss, or isn't independently wealthy from another source ala Perkins. I obviously already understand you're not making this claim as the sole reason you should have been nominated, and it's just one of many reasons...

(2) IMO this is where there is a disconnect between the poker world and the real world, and these awards shows are really an intersection of those two things. In poker you expect much closer to a meritocracy, but for the award show stuff, it's not surprising to see that there's a lot of shmoozing/bull****/biases that goes into the decision-making and ultimately seems like you have to either join the herd in being a boy scout or just live with getting snubbed. c'est la vie!

(3) Yeah this will be a test, if DNegs wins this will pretty much confirm how much horse**** this whole thing is. GOOOOO papiiiii

With that said, your channel has gone a long way in a short time and that's impressive. Seems like a lot of your vids are falling into the 50-100k views range which seems really strong for such a niche topic like poker.


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Originally Posted by Clayton
the concept of awards shows for poker is very dumb
+1

As an aside, I've never listened to one of DNeg's podcasts, but is there a way to increase the playback speed to 1.5 or 2x short of downloading it and playing it in something with that functionality? Is there any reason he doesn't upload them to youtube?
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02-24-2017 , 03:38 PM
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02-26-2017 , 04:03 PM
LMAO at Doug's impromptu sensationalist Polker News Negraneu/Mercier/APA/Blizerian/Perkins click bait segment. Fantastic opening editing sequence followed by fast-paced delivery of multiple stories.

Sure, these type of vids might not get the same views as your more mainstream-mega-pot vids, but when you take the time to produce one of these lol-poker-gossip/news for your more "knowledgeable" poker fans it is greatly appreciated.

Thanks for the lolz!
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02-26-2017 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ninetynine99
LMAO at Doug's impromptu sensationalist Polker News Negraneu/Mercier/APA/Blizerian/Perkins click bait segment. Fantastic opening editing sequence followed by fast-paced delivery of multiple stories.

Sure, these type of vids might not get the same views as your more mainstream-mega-pot vids, but when you take the time to produce one of these lol-poker-gossip/news for your more "knowledgeable" poker fans it is greatly appreciated.

Thanks for the lolz!
No problem! That video shattered previous records for viewership out of the gate by the way, on Sunday which is by far the worst day to post videos.
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02-27-2017 , 04:40 PM
The video also has the worst thumbs up to thumbs down ratio which should mean something, though not sure if you care about it since, afaik, both actually help the content creator.

I personally couldn’t care less about your clickbait titles, they don’t trigger me at all but this one feels over the line. First of all you have phrased it in a very ambiguous way which you claim wasn’t an intent, so not going to elaborate on that (I would have used “//” instead of “and” just to give an idea). Even if we get past that I am not sure how to feel about using big names in what is clearly a negative context. I’m sure you are aware those two are the reason you have gotten so many views in the first place and you are clearly not doing any of them a favor (even if one of them is currently a cancer to poker but that’s just my personal feeling). We also have to be mindful that there will be some people who will just read the title and never watch your video.

Now, if you could indulge me and answer this hypothetical scenario. Say you have unfortunately got scammed by someone and this info is leaked to public. Now, the next youtube pokerstar makes a video about this and names it “Doug Polk involved in a SCAM of the century”. Would you find that title ok assuming the video itself would be very truthful and solid? If yes than I guess it is a fair game.
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02-27-2017 , 04:55 PM
Love the videos, but please consider investing in a pop filter like this one, or if you can't afford that, you can always make your own.
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02-27-2017 , 04:58 PM
Poor Doug forgets to take the pop filter with him on one road trip and gets hundreds of comments about it lol
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02-27-2017 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JustADreamer
The video also has the worst thumbs up to thumbs down ratio which should mean something, though not sure if you care about it since, afaik, both actually help the content creator.

I personally couldn’t care less about your clickbait titles, they don’t trigger me at all but this one feels over the line. First of all you have phrased it in a very ambiguous way which you claim wasn’t an intent, so not going to elaborate on that (I would have used “//” instead of “and” just to give an idea). Even if we get past that I am not sure how to feel about using big names in what is clearly a negative context. I’m sure you are aware those two are the reason you have gotten so many views in the first place and you are clearly not doing any of them a favor (even if one of them is currently a cancer to poker but that’s just my personal feeling). We also have to be mindful that there will be some people who will just read the title and never watch your video.

Now, if you could indulge me and answer this hypothetical scenario. Say you have unfortunately got scammed by someone and this info is leaked to public. Now, the next youtube pokerstar makes a video about this and names it “Doug Polk involved in a SCAM of the century”. Would you find that title ok assuming the video itself would be very truthful and solid? If yes than I guess it is a fair game.
Whenever many people downvote something, it does mean you should change your strategy to try and do it better in the future. We are going to tone it slightly down in the future, but we still need to keep it on the aggressive/trolly side because that is what brings the most people into the video. It is a delicate balance.

I think this title was close to being over the line, but I don't think it was. The biggest problem was that that people thought the two stories were related, which in the future I should more clearly state they are not. I thought it was clear they were not, but moving forward I will do more to clear that up.

I don't think I would be against that titling if something leaked and someone used my name like that, becuase if you click it you would see that I did not scam anyone, but was the victim. Again its close, but I think I would be ok with it. (As long as the wording did not say that I actaully scammed someone).

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Originally Posted by gregorio
Love the videos, but please consider investing in a pop filter like this one, or if you can't afford that, you can always make your own.
I have one at home, I use in every video. I am on the road atm
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02-27-2017 , 05:45 PM
Nice response Doug and even though I wish you all the best part of me hopes to one day see your sincerity put to the test as you are clearly playing with a double-edged sword. Still, one of the reasons I am a fan is because I really think that unlike many people in the poker world you are a person of huge integrity.
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02-27-2017 , 05:46 PM
I don't think I've noticed the mic in the shots before, so I thought you had a different setup at home. In the meantime, just avoid words like Polk, poker and pot.
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02-27-2017 , 08:45 PM
I'm a big fan of doug but I think it is funny people argueing he should have been nominated for a twitch streamer award when the people nominated have been streaming like 6-7 days a week putting TONS of hours into it while dougs focus has been on youtube and no longer twitch. Maybe if there was an award for 'biggest twitch moment' dougs wins could get him qualified. If there was an overall 'content' award instead of a twitch streamer one, and a podcast one I would be surprised if he wasn't nominated. Either way for a twitch one it was obvious jcarver would win it, whoever was nominated with him didn't matter at all
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02-27-2017 , 08:52 PM
The winner of the Twitch award streamed 159 days last year which gets him streaming 3 times a week with 3 days left over.
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02-28-2017 , 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
The winner of the Twitch award streamed 159 days last year which gets him streaming 3 times a week with 3 days left over.
Other fun facts being in the 159 days he streamed for over 3 months straight every day avging ~8 hrs+ a day , over 1k hrs on the year, biggest following on twitch poker subs and viewer/follower wise


Doug is a great content creator but not a dedicated, or at all anymore, twitch streamer therefore it makes sense he wasn't nominated for a twitch based award is all I am saying.

Either way the poker awards are a pretty big joke , not sure why they exist or what good they do poker
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02-28-2017 , 08:33 AM
^^^^
I feel the same way about the Academy Awards and giving awards for Art. It is all a big circle-jerk and meaningless.
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02-28-2017 , 12:17 PM
Jason himself said yesterday on his stream that he didn't stream over 1k hours and that he doubts any poker streamer did. I wonder if Jason did anything epic on stream like win 6 figures twice or stream 19 hours for a ****ing $10 bonus to get released...
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02-28-2017 , 06:55 PM
Yo Doug.

A little suggestion from my side, if you didn't yet, look into the Videos of the Cash Kings Channel.You may find some interesting Hands that not everybody has seen already like the old HSP Videos.
Just recently they uploaded some 100/200 videos where the Action is just insane, but they all play absurdly bad, it probably will be tough to find a hand worth analyzing just for the sake of learning something from it, but there are enough spectacular hands, that for sure.At one point the commentator said
"This gotta be one of the best, if not the best game on the planet right now"
The Lineup varies, but the only non terrible Players are Sam Trickett, Jonas Kronwitter, Elky(who only appears for a short time) and that's it as far as i remember.
Really fascinating, that even at such a high limit, you not only find a single or two whales who are willingly donating while having a good time and playing the worst game imaginable.
It´s almost a full table of them.
Either they have so much money to really don't care about possibly losing up to half a mill(on a single session)or they are just like any other unreasonable gambler, just on another scale and with a better day job, and play way above their bankroll and maybe won't be seen for a long time if they lose like 500k cause its half their networth.

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02-28-2017 , 07:08 PM
^agreed with above, recent game with Leon was the nuts

the older ones are also worth looking into, essentially the whole thing is something I've never seen in televised poker, with at least 2-3 whales at the table, usually more
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02-28-2017 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by WCGRider
As always want to thank everyone for the kind words, lot of nice stuff being said here about the channel and the content I have been putting out.

As far as the American Poker Awards go, it is clearly ridiculous that I wasn't even nominated in the categories of Media/Content/Twitch. You can make some reasonable counter arguments for each category, but at the end of the day, I got the most unique views across twitch/youtube in 2016 and didnt manage to get a top 4 nomination across the board. That just seems totally ridiculous to me.

Also, I think we all know I have not done myself any favors to win over the hearts and minds of the panel that decides who gets the awards or not (#EntrepenuerLife, More Rake is better, etc). However at the end of the day, if the AMERICAN POKER AWARDS are not even going to recognize the American who has done the most to grow in the last year, it calls into question the legitimacy of the organization imo.

As far as the twitch streamer nomination goes, it sort of doesnt matter, as you have to give the win to Jcarver. Also the rest of the guys are good guys who have worked hard to develop their brands, but again, I averaged 2nd-3rd highest viewership all year and had the largest twitch score twice. If that isn't worthy of a nomination for top 4, they may want to consider the system.

All in all, I don't think its a big deal. Many people don't even know what these awards are, and the people that do have to understand at some level, if you are not going to include the people who should actually be nominated for awards, why even have them to begin with.

I will say I am rooting for Joe Ingram to take down podcast of the year, although who knows if he is going to be victorious over Dnegs, who did six podcasts over a year and received a nomination (congrats!).


Your arrogance is astounding.
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02-28-2017 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ChippuhTss
Your arrogance is astounding.
Doug's ego doesn't seem to be out of line, both in general and also within the context of his accomplishments. I've never seem or heard him pull a Ryan Reiss after winning something.

His argument for being more than eligible for a nomination appears valid. Obviously Jcarver was always going to win, Doug just wanted to be recognized for the effort he put in. I think.

So why not just say what you really want to?

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I just don't like Doug Polk and I came in this thread to hate.
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02-28-2017 , 10:53 PM
I do like Doug. I like him a lot, but he came across as an arrogant dbag in that post.


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