if players were concerned about that they wouldn't play...

TC makes mental note to show bluffs

You can have more than one monitor and thus run other software on the other screen.

Also the HUD doesn't always show up if you use window capture.

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Or TC takes the elaborate bait...

This is turning into the King of the Internet Pokers competition. If this all comes off, it's the absolute shizzle.

Fyp... there's a lot of stuff you can do if you're not monitored by a separate cam... that's why I think it would be so interesting to see someone play in a monitored setup.

Sounds like no one's interested in this anyway though, or in admitting/discussing what kind of software they use. I think that's more telling than anything....

I'm not hatin though. Just kind of interesting to see what the new hustle is.

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plz go down

"Da game is to be sold, not to be told "

I don't know anything about what they do or don't use but why would they make it known to the public/opponents/etc if they were using some high tech software? That would seem pretty dumb IMO.

I think most of use just want to see some HU matches and don't really care what they do or don't use.

You can layer any software you use so you see it on your screen when playing but it doesn't show up in a stream. So what was the point of streaming, again?

If the players can manage to pay for some superduper GTO software that evaluates hands in real time I'm pretty sure they could manage to hide such a tool from a twitch stream.. Move on.

lol you guys are a bunch of morons with your secret software. get a grip

gl flushie

Streaming the action on these guys end with hole cards on Twitch is probably one of the worst ideas ever. Obviously if you are the rail or anyone that plays HUNL this would be a dream. You keep your software (if any) running on the other monitor and can choose which windows you show on the stream so this would not have an effect on that.

Strongly disagree with this

I think it would be pretty naive if you thought nothing like this existed out there somewhere

do you have some sort of premise for that statement or is it pure speculation ?

I appreciate you countering in my direction. However atm 25/50, 10khands, 30ksb, is all I can do. Taxes are actually a factor in 2 ways. We can think of this as round 1 though
Glad it's friendly, I have a ton of respect for your game, and personally I find it much more enjoyable like this instead of it being some rage HU4rollz.

Lmk if you're up for this and we can iron out some details.

probably as much premise as your statement had papi dan dan

What Joey podcast has the the TCfromUB rankings?

the TCfromUB episode? At least i know he commented on his ranking on that episode and made a bunch of challenges. Also explained why he would love to play certain players at 10/20 25/50 or whatever but not higher. And why some of the elite wouldn't want to play lower than X stake due to it being too cheap a lesson.

Can someone post TC's list please

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THE FANS WANT 50/100

That nickname is a blatant ripoff.

asian vamoooo is strong ITT

I think the sidebets in these things end up being kind of stupid. At a certain point it changes the strategy from poker to something else entirely, so I think its best to avoid sidebets that are large relative to the stakes of the game.

I think a 3-5 bi sidebet is ok (still sort of stupid though), but you still risk a bit of a ridiculous scenario. I remember seeing two ssnl guys going at it in a thread in the HUNL forum, and they both lost like 2-3k from rake, but then 1 guy just folded for however many hundreds, or thousands of hands, to win by like $14 and the other guy couldn't win from that point on.

The best route imo, would be to have a small sidebet so it wouldn't change things, or maybe just a fee for someone if they quit playing. Both of those seem appropriate and don't change the spirit of the bet.

A cool idea that I imagine most people wouldn't be up for, is lets say they play 15k hands, a panel of judges decides a random number from a hand between the 5k hand and the 15k hand. That hand # determines the sidebet. This is a much more favorable scenario, as it does not incentivize nitting it up to secure a sidebet, as the likelihood you win the sidebet is too low. A few examples

Example 1 - Player A is up 10 buyins @ the 10k hand mark, if they fold from here on out they lose 18.75 buyins before the challenge ends. Ending the challenge down 8.75 buyins (although ironically in this new format, they would be a favorite to win the sidebet, but they would likely be more of a favorite by continuing to play).

Example 2 - Player A is up 10 buyins @ the 14k hand mark. If they fold from here on out they lose 7.5 buyins. In a traditional challenge they win the sidebet by folding here on out, so if they sidebt is > 7.5 buyins, they should be folding all hands unless they have a really good holding where the expected return justifies VPIP.

However, in the new scenario, there is a 90% chance the challenge was already decided, so folding here would be absolutely ridiculous, you still need to be playing your hands as vigirously as possible.

I understand that this could result in sort of a wierd scenario where 1 player wins the challenge, and 1 player wins the sidebet, but in this format it becomes about playing the best no limit hold thems, and not about strategically sniping a sidebet. Also the person that is the better player is still more likely to win the sidebet, as they are more likely to be the person leading in the challenge at the hand # that has been randomly chosen.

(You could actually do it by choosing 3 points in the challenge, and having it be a Best 2 out of 3 as well, which reduces the variance of my suggested format but still keeps consistency on not being able to fold to victory)