Yeah, cheers for the reply.

Plus - and this is coming from someone who had all their roll on Full Tilt - there is no need for you to pay any money out of your pocket, obviously it is a nice gesture but it really wasn't your fault!

im happy i was monetarily tied to the situation, because it made it much clearer to all the people around me that i was only trying to do what was i thought in the best interest of the players. also it let me plan for possibly being out a lot of $$ for longer (instead of realizing now that the right thing to do was pay back $$ i made).

i don't think people should be profiting from a situation that involved tons of people being defrauded. I don't think the people who were paid 50k/yr and needed it to eat should give back much (altho some peanuts would be nice and a good gesture), but i do think the sponsored pros should be giving back as much as they can for what they were paid since the company was insolvent.

if i had been with ftp for 5yrs i wouldnt be giving back all i was paid, only for the last yr or so- but since iv only been there 20ish mnths it seemed right and easier to jus give it all back

Is there any way the audit report might get leaked to the public?

I'd love to read it.

ive consulted a bunch of really good lawyers- more for their opinions on what was best to do. whistle blower stuff would only cover going to the southern district, not tweeting etc, and that didn't seem to serve any purpose while a deal was in the works. when a deal fell through 2weeks ago i was planning on doing that or something along those lines, and then i realized the southern district already knew everything. i sat there scratching my head really sad they weren't doing anything and confused about why, until i woke up today with some faith restored in the govt.

doj basically just did that.

I've been saying this for some time now, glad you also put it out there.

Now watch for the name and shame thread listing all those who donate nothing. I have a bad feeling the list of names will be a LONG one

Why should it be favorising 2+2 ppl? Because you post on here doesnt mean u deserve more to get paid

Durrrr saves his own ass and puts pressure on fellow full tilt pros, he's on fire today. And I'm not flaming him for that, after all it's the smart thing to do.

I respect smart people with integrity(even though he has to prove he really pays first).

i fully believe that i learned about the hole before most of the non-board member owners (in late april or early may dont remember exact). i have some reasons to believe this that im not gonna fully go into (altho feel free to ask)- but im pretty damn sure its right. Obviously i only now about select case(s) and theres a chance other owners did know, im just extrapolating.

@ Durrr: Are you still in contract with them? Were you able to join other sites right now? Or signing other contracts?

durrrr did you talked with Phil Ivey recently about this?

durrrr, i call dibs on shares on the next poker site you join that is created when the dust settles. ;]

Obv. you can't say who the investor was, but can you tell us why it fell through?

yes. the amount of money they made was insane... and that was with a ton of gaping holes in management and overall longterm policies (i think stars has some of these too). with some brainstorming and refinement it was a great deal imo for a while.

this company had way less oversight than it shouldve (or it obviously never wouldve gotten to this point). any competent person who had a % of ftp wouldve shut down processing to the us at any point once they noticed the hole, and bam they still have a 9figure business.

Too much has happened for me to catch up on latest developments, but, yes I respect durrr. More than any other player, except possibly Barry G. I'm assuming he will stick to his promise to pay $1m saying this though.

Durrr,

Thank you for taking the time to answer some of our questions, even though you knew you'd get a lot of heat. It says a lot about your character, and I appreciate it.

Durrrr you said you met FTP doug one time. Did he have an adam's apple? Was doug michelle? Thanks for answering everything and keeping us players at heart. You are a good role model from a bad company. I am sure if you knew about this earlier you would have walked along time ago.

Anyone who doesn't still respect Durrrr is just looking for someone to blame imo, he's been one of the few if not the only person at least somewhat involved with Full Tilt that is talking. That alone speaks volumes..

durrr is so clearly one of the good guys in the poker community. that said i do have one question for you durrr that has been bugging me a little. who bought junglemans full tilt balance? was it you or one of the board members of full tilt? have there been team full tilt pros who have been paid to keep quiet about the shadiness that they knew of? for example, i thought matusow came on record a while ago that he or a member of team full tilt was going to air some negative full tilt news if they didn't pay soon, but he has remained silent.

durrrr who's ultimately to blame for this whole mess? And what's this about chris ferguson being the chairman of the board?

durrr...let's say FT is bought out, back up and running, whatever. what is the likelihood you choose to remain a part of their team?

ban op and delete/lock thread.


Might as well say Do you guys till respect every single full tilt pro? I mean anyone involved with that scum company is the devil right? Durr must be rolling in piles of us money right now.

LOL at 2p2

would you ******s stop with this? he said our money was safe...he deserves some heat.

Admitting knowledge of criminal actions when you are deeply involved in a company seems really smart to me