Number 1 is far too vague.

You basically made a promise/bet that you thought you would never have to pay out on.

The complicated logistics alone of paying all the players obviously means you never thought it through.

Maybe you arnt the bad man here but you stood by and did nothing.

Do you realize how many grinders had most of their life rolls tied up in FTP and are pretty screwed right now.

I totally expect all the "Pros" to come out and say the same thing.

"We didnt know or we were under a NDA"

thing is, if they bet under 1 million, then tom would lose more if he wants to win the best, but would win more if he lost the bet.

So obviously this wouldn't be too bad of a bet as long as monkey (or whatever his name) chooses a number well below 1mil, such as 300k or less. Not sure what the minimum of the bet is but i wouldnt mind getting in on this.

Much respect to mr.Dwan and mr.Galfond if they actually make this happen!
Even a lttle money would be appreciated.

Dwan and Galfond claims center

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=472 <- this should be around 800k$

I dunno about the huge money claims on this list but the >10k$ claims should be legit.

This is not Tom's fault

Yes, I'm serious Alligator. I realize it would be a complicated endeavour but the potential upside is huge for everyone involved.

Thing is, if durrrr doesn't pay out the money he said he would, chances are you're not getting paid out on any subsequent bet you have with him either

No opinion either way on the matter yet, but the lynch mob mentality should probably stop...

obv...durrrr is the online moneymaker

I don't think it would be as impossible to do as you think it is. Logistically difficult, certainly, but not impossible, and if he's motivated to do so he can work around the logistical difficulties, IMO.

But I'm not involved with any prop betting and have no real dog in this race, so carry on.

this.

hes here answering questions and not hiding. respect for that.

except they agreed to escrow...

This is his fault how?

I dont know anyone in the poker business and had no inside leads to what was going on.

I had large amounts of money (to me) on FTP around Nov. 2010. After seeing how everything went down in the lame duck session I realized that online poker was going no where fast and decided I no longer wanted to keep large amounts of money online.

I figured it was a horrible idea so I cashed out all but what I was willing to lose if things took a turn for the worse.

Im not some super genious. I just have a functioning brain. Anyone who lost money needs to blame themselves well before they blame a sponsored pro.

You got me. Weird situation either way. I'm sure he wishes he didn't say what he said now and is just as hurt by the whole FTP situation as a lot of other people. I think people's anger should be channeled elsewhere.

This thought process is so idiotic...if durrrr doesn't pay out the 1mm (not saying he won't, just speaking hypothetically) it won't be because he can't afford it, and even if it was, why would you want him to come crawling back with his tail between his legs apologising? He has been the most vocal/informative Team Full Tilt member since BF & its ensuing mess and for that alone he deserves respect.

I think that the idiotic/immature posters in this thread are probably in most cases the one's with a relatively small amount locked up on Full Tilt, yet they still feel the need to excessively whine and moan because they're young, have nothing else to do and it's really cool to hate on celebrities, especially ones who you know might read your comments.

I respect the way Durrr has handled the situation, I genuinely feel he was just naive when black friday started and failed to understand how ****ed the company he worked for was.

I see what you are saying.

Im tired of these whiney little bitches getting their way in life.

So my preference is...

Donate the money to charity >>>>>> say "lol sucks for you whining bitches Im not paying" >>>>> Ship me my tiny fraction of the money due from FTP.

In other words I'd rather not get my money if it means the a-holes dont get theirs.

durrrr,

let's say players are partially repaid, is your million freeroll still on the table?

You did read the part where the "Pros" recieved 443 million while the company had a fraction of the money needed to pay the players.

If the pros gave back half of what they were paid virtually everyone would get their money back.

Players who played full time had no choice but to keep a decent amount online especially with the difficulty of funding the sites.

I really do not understand why people feel like Durrr owes them anything.

This just in....he doesn't!!

Everyone is just looking for someone to blame, **** get off his back. Why does he attract so much negative attention. He's just a professional poker player who got sponsored by a company. What part of what's gone down is his fault?

Really just think about it and stop being morons. He doesn't owe anyone anything.

@Durrr, personally if I was you, I wouldn't pay anything. That's just me, regardless of what you said. You did work hard for what you got and it is unfortunate for the people who have money tied up (myself included).

You seem like a cool dude who just got stuck in a bad situation.

likely something like 5% of accounts get 10c/$

yea, unless ftp repays all player funds

Durrrr if you knew in may FTP couldnt cover player balances why did you just sit back and let them take deposits from the ROW until the end of June? Plenty of players deposited money into a black hole thinking their money was safe.

its just such a joke that they fkd off a business which should've been worth 500m right now. so many disgusting areas of mismanagement and lack of oversight.

Without question Durrr is retaining a lot of credibility for even speaking openly about this now. Props for that

So if you worked for Enron making $15/hour as a sales rep, you should help pay back the stockholders because management made a stupid move?

That is insane. Who cares what his salary was unless he signed an agreement saying his salary is based on what management could scam the players out of.

As for the players that played full time, dont get me wrong I feel for many of them, but they made a poor choice. It was still their choice to make, not anyone elses. Just like if you open a business and it fails, you shouldn't be blaming it on anyone else.