I have a lot of respect for durrr, what he got paid by ftp he says he'll return to the players. I believe him. Unless/until that turns out not to be true I have a lot of respect for him.

I always thought the big game on ftp was a funny money type of publicity stunt orchestrated by them. As it turns out it was , though whether the players knew this is debatable, other than benyamine of course, obviously HE KNEW it was funny money. I can't 3 bet 68 os, or bluff quads against second nut, but i damn sure can tell a kid when he should get a lawyer, and durr my friend, put a muzzle on it and hire a lawyer.

junky just got owned

shotgun on my roll

thats very true that i knew info that i could, and wanted to share- i went back and forth many times about what i thought was in the best interest of players being paid back, and tried to do what was right with that in mind. dunno if i did but doubt any course of action after mid-june would've made much diff

you should bet 1 million that you'll payout, amirite?!?!?!?!?!?

LOL @ durr, i just sent that guy a pm...at least i can say durrrr ****ing stepped in and ruined my prop betting action .

Thanks a lot, thomas.

Where is the 'I never respected durrrr and he is an arrogant bastard option'..
Sry Dwan, couldnt resist.

durrrr pwnage ITT.

ditto

I don't doubt that you have good intentions tom, you've put your neck out on the line when many just shelled up because they were scared. But with this case, i would seriously get in contact with the doj, tell them what you knew etc. and go from there. You don't owe anything to us, you sure as hell don't owe anything to lederer, bitar, and ferguson, but you do owe it to yourself to do what's right for yourself, and in my opinion that is devulging information privy to this case with the doj. The moneys gone, we aren't getting it back, anyone who isn't delusional understands this, so your best course now for all of us, along with your own integrity and protection, is to talk to the DOJ.

Is there any more light you can shed on the current FTP situation, that doesn't break an NDA or what ever?

Were there ever really 6 legit investors?

Edit:

Kinda answered it here:http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=615

I wish I had his knowledge of the game, so for that I respect him whether or not he gives $ back...he doesn't owe anybody a penny!!!

have you thrown your friends under the bus for announcing that they violated their NDA by telling u anything?

how exactly you gonna pay everyone? You gonna send everyone 14 cents via paypal?

I like ur style durrrr - Good comment. I will make a bet with you on this.

I find it hard to believe you will give a million away when u are not legally bound to do so.

Obviously the amount I bet will not be a million dollars as it would defeat the purpose.

If you decide not to bet with me, I hope you are a man of your word regardless.

junky pick an escrow we can bet an unlimited amount. needs to be an escrow that i trust of which there are probably about 1000 in the poker community.

I got your message... I replied to durrr's 'escrow' comment itt

shouldnt there be a never respected durr choice?

Yeah clearly you should not bet a million dollars, as then durr would be like freerolling the bet as he could use that million dollars you bet against him to pay back the victims of FTP.

That is definitely the main reason you should not make this million dollar bet with durrrr. I advise against such an action.

I have a feeling tom's already been in contact with the DOJ. Sounds like he had no knowlege of the fraud until after black friday, and im almost 100% sure that the doj has talked to many of the big name ftp pros, including tom. Still it's a good post with good advice if he hasn't in fact talked with them yet.

i've gone over what to do a ton of different times with a lot of different people, and early on i tried to make sure that my only motivation was getting players repaid (and removing any doubt that it wasn't by tying my personal finances to that like i think all people involved with ftp should've done). I went over my reasons for stuff in the other thread, but i'll do a few interviews about this, as i think thats the best way to show my reasoning/intentions (and i'll do them with someone like noah, and ask him to ask as many hard questions as possible- and not have any topics off limits etc... altho there might be some stuff i won't respond to, i'll mention publicly that i won't respond to it not jus to noah obv).

is he really broke?