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Old 08-31-2010, 07:50 AM   #1
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Discussion: Euro poker thread.

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So, with the recent development in mind, France, Belgium and probably Greece will/just have nationalized online poker. It's obvious there's a trend going on and more countries will probably follow.

What kind of situation will we have on our hands? And what's the possible development from there?
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Old 08-31-2010, 08:06 AM   #2
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Old 08-31-2010, 08:14 AM   #3
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So, with the recent development in mind, France, Belgium and probably Greece will/just have nationalized online poker. It's obvious there's a trend going on and more countries will probably follow.
You can add the Netherlands to the list of countries that will 'regulate' / nationalize online poker soonish.

About two weeks ago some commission officially adviced the Ministre of Justice to regulate online poker and block out all other forms of internet gambling. (including ISP blocking etc)

http://calvinayre.com/2010/08/25/pok...-poker-market/

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Old 08-31-2010, 08:15 AM   #4
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Estonia has done it too. Finland opens "national poker" later this autumn. Fortunately it is still legal to play on other sites.
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Old 08-31-2010, 09:19 AM   #5
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It's quite unfortunate, you have a bunch of people (the Governments) making regulations on a matter they have absolutely no idea about, purely because of some unfounded beliefs about gambling that have an underlying current of religious beliefs beneath them.

It's hard to say where it is headed at this stage. I just wish they'd leave it alone. Many of the European countries are run down ****holes anyway that should count themselves lucky they were accepted into the EU, let alone trying to segregate their own citizens from their fellow European players in something so trivial.

Greece even thinking about online gambling, while they just received a €145bn bailout and their economy is in utter ****, is just outrageous though. There's a time and a place and when your country can't even run itself you shouldn't even be concerned with recreational, legal habits of your citizens. Your only focus should be getting the country back on its feet.

It's a shame but I don't think anything can be done about it right now short of putting pressure on the sites to comply with existing competition laws in the EU, and to block/change any EU level regulation/legislation that the EU might try to pass down (which can be done with 1 million signatures).
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Old 08-31-2010, 09:46 AM   #6
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It's quite unfortunate, you have a bunch of people (the Governments) making regulations on a matter they have absolutely no idea about, purely because of some unfounded beliefs about gambling that have an underlying current of religious beliefs beneath them.

It's hard to say where it is headed at this stage. I just wish they'd leave it alone. Many of the European countries are run down ****holes anyway that should count themselves lucky they were accepted into the EU, let alone trying to segregate their own citizens from their fellow European players in something so trivial.

Greece even thinking about online gambling, while they just received a €145bn bailout and their economy is in utter ****, is just outrageous though. There's a time and a place and when your country can't even run itself you shouldn't even be concerned with recreational, legal habits of your citizens. Your only focus should be getting the country back on its feet.

It's a shame but I don't think anything can be done about it right now short of putting pressure on the sites to comply with existing competition laws in the EU, and to block/change any EU level regulation/legislation that the EU might try to pass down (which can be done with 1 million signatures).
Although this time you wrote down your thinking process I will have to almost repeat my reply in the Greece - specific thread. (Some mod could merge the threads possibly?)

How hard is it for you to realize that if so many players are playing online the Goverment is missing several needed millions in taxes thats why they rush the legislation at this time of economic need? Believe it or not Greece is a country with a ridiculous amount of gamblers in the population. Card games and casinos are very very common. Having absolutely 0 taxes on this things when the whole country is struggling economically doesn't sound right does it? Saying Greece, lol and " your ****hole country should stay away from poker and get on her feet first" makes me believe your thinking process isnt working at its best right now. A country in debt needs to utilize all the income possibilities she has and I wonder why taxing a recreational (sic) activity like poker and gambling sounds absurd to you.

Its not a matter of recreational habits as you happily but dead wrong put it. Weird as it may seem I play semi professionally and changes like that hurt me a lot but I still find the change expected.
You probably think we live in caves by now judging from the quality of information you are receiving and misplacing in random threads. We haven't died yet, thanx. You better spend a little time dusting off your history lessons. Oh and america, **** yeah.
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:12 AM   #7
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Re: Discussion: Euro poker thread.

whats the EU's policy regarding competition policy. on Euro networks such as Ipoker this should surely have an effect
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:14 AM   #8
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Its sick!

Pokerstars.fr got more traffic then ipoker fuuuuu
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:14 AM   #9
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Re: Discussion: Euro poker thread.

Add Austria to the list. You're supposed to only play on one, Austria based site or in local Casinos.
Everything else is kind of illegal, but not blocked.
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:15 AM   #10
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in 3 months portugal too
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:20 AM   #11
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i dont get it i am lost here
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:22 AM   #12
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Re: Discussion: Euro poker thread.

Are these nationalized sites meant to only be accessible from one country? If so, why doesn't the EU have a problem with this? We opened our borders and labor markets but are actively closing our poker sites?

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Old 08-31-2010, 10:25 AM   #13
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why is the UK the only country that regulated online poker and hasnt managed to *** it up for everyone else?
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:38 AM   #14
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So, with the recent development in mind, France, Belgium and probably Greece will/just have nationalized online poker. It's obvious there's a trend going on and more countries will probably follow.

What kind of situation will we have on our hands? And what's the possible development from there?
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:48 AM   #15
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You probably think we live in caves by now judging from the quality of information you are receiving and misplacing in random threads. We haven't died yet, thanx. You better spend a little time dusting off your history lessons. Oh and america, **** yeah.
I think he lives in Ireland...
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