haha that german clown is a life fish

Hello, I'm the "random EuroDonk" (thx alot for the nice description btw).

Just to give a short explanation of the hand: I had good reasons to believe that de Wolfe was bluffing here a decenct amount of the time and that he would just openmuck his hand in this case even if his bluff beats my hand (like lots of live players do when they have been caught bluffing).

Just to clarify: I did not say at any point that my hand beats Khi and also never insulted Roland or something (I actually think he's a pretty nice guy and we talked about this hand very friendly just 15 minutes later). I only told him to show his second card or I will not show.

Why do you think Roland showed the Kc btw? Definitely not because he though he had any showdown value at all. Imo he showed his hand to pretent to have had a busted flushdraw and/or to make me show my hand. Directly after his river bet, I instantly grabbed the chips out of my stack as if I'd auto call and started a little conversation with him and said that I had a pretty strong hand that I cannot muck (that part has been cut from the vid). So how can de Wolfe possibly think his Khi has any showdown value at all in a big pot like that after he gets called?!

I admit that the fist pump was a bit out of line and apologize for it (even though poker is war not a playground). All the pent-up tension has been released at that moment as I didn't expect him to show a K or a bluff that beats me and I was trying to stay cool to make him muck his hand. I don't think my behaviour was unethical or something though. It would have been smarter not to show my hand and just take the pot because this would have saved me from a lot of trouble.

Regards,

Tobias

i love this. well played tobias. i think every dbag at my local cardrroom who doesnt just show there hand on the river should watch this vid.

roland put himself in a position to be the victim of a bad ruling

wtf planet are you guys on, this is 110% rolands fault and he doesn't even place the blame on anyone else if you ask him

tobias, nh, you did'nt "deserve" to win it but you were well within your rights to ship that pot, anyone here saying otherwise is pretty much an idiot (sorry mlagoo but you're crazy)

this is what people get for playing games and wasting everyone time during showdown, turn your ****ing cards face up and stop playing games

wow that german is a douche

he may be a douche for the fist pump but he apologized for it
I think he's perfectly right to do this and he deserved the pot for outsmarting his opponent. Well done

yeah roland ****ed up, but what the german dude did is douchey as hell IMO. pretty clear he was looking for the angle

Bit of meta showdown angle shooting....props, but roland shouldnt have ****'d around with his cards.

cant say ****'d?

I dont care about the rules here this is just wrong.
1. When Roland flashes his king the hand is over Tobias hand should go into the muck.
2. For trying to win the hand after Roland flashes his king Tobias should get at least 30 min penalty for spending other players time.

3. When i play on party poker those german donks never ever fold Q6 its like the nuts to them.

4. For me this has to be the worsed ruling in history of poker its just so wrong that players get away with this bull****.

5. After bet on river and call the best hand should just win period no rule should ever change that even if a player muck if he can grap his hand and show it he should have won as he has the best hand.

6. Shame on everone here to think Tobias did something right in this hand shame shame shame.

stopped reading there

epic, epic on all counts sir.

i don't like it and i am german =(

Shocking fistpump...but am I missing something...did German call with Qhigh because he thought it was good or that he knew DeWolfe was bluffing and would muck?...

read above, he stated his thoughts