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View Poll Results: Who wins this bet?
Daniel wins easily 144 19.67%
Daniel has an edge 196 26.78%
Reina has an edge 179 24.45%
Reina wins easily 213 29.10%
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:03 AM   #301
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Re: Daniel Negreanu challenging Liverpool keeper Jose Reina to a penalty shootout?!?!?

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1) I think practice is important, but do you wanna bet who practices more before the bet? I think Reina is...

2) It is not difficult for a goalie to predict if he is up vs an amateur...

3) lol at 90%, do you watch football? The best guy on the team is probably a 90% favorite, but the top 5 arent near that (see greg's statistics from world cup).
Reina trains everyday he wont hardly bother practicing, DN practicing will hugely increases his edge.

I watch religiously and played semi pro a couple years back, maybe i got the percentage a little high at 90% but its still like 75%-80% from what i see on google, and like you say the best kickers are probably at 90%.

DN needs 20%+, he already into hockey isn't he? didn't he play hockey aswell? which shows he is not totally retarded hand eye coordination wise.

If i could teach a girl to toe punt the ball reasonably hard it would be +ev. DN may even score more than 1

once i hear times and dates i'll take your money, no problem

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Old 10-04-2009, 08:13 AM   #302
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Re: Daniel Negreanu challenging Liverpool keeper Jose Reina to a penalty shootout?!?!?

Has Negreanu played football at any competitive level? If so I will probably book action vs all you guys who want to bet on Reina
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Re: Daniel Negreanu challenging Liverpool keeper Jose Reina to a penalty shootout?!?!?

Read DN's post in this thread. He talks about his experience playing soccer.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:28 AM   #304
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Re: Daniel Negreanu challenging Liverpool keeper Jose Reina to a penalty shootout?!?!?

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Massive LOL at some of the fish in this thread that think Reina stops all five attempts. He's not even the best keeper in the premier league, for christ's sake.
Please name one PL-goalie that's better than Reina at stopping penalties.

Reina is absolute world class against penalty kicks, and might be the best in the world in that aspect. His 2 goals allowed from 9 penalty kicks when with Villarreal in 04/05 is just sick, and he's been very good in Liverpool as well. West Ham scored 1 goal in the penalty shootout to end the FA-cup final in 06. I can't think of a goalie I'd rather have in a penalty shootout.

But I guess Negreanu is a better penalty kick-taker than those clowns in La Liga or West Ham.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:33 AM   #305
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Re: Daniel Negreanu challenging Liverpool keeper Jose Reina to a penalty shootout?!?!?

DN's best strategy here is to practise chipping the ball at slow speed into the top corners. If he goes for power unless he gets very lucky Reina will get to it quite easily. I imagine DN thinks he has a good edge here because even though Reina has saved penalties from some of the world's best strikers, he hasn't saved penalties against one of the world's best bluffers. But he is quite mistaken. Reina's reflexes are so fast he can wait until the ball is moving before making his decision where to go (given that DN is not a professional that is).
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:34 AM   #306
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Re: Daniel Negreanu challenging Liverpool keeper Jose Reina to a penalty shootout?!?!?

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lmfao, some of you are so clueless.

"I honestly believe that people don't realise how hard and accurately pro footballers hit that ball. "

O Rly? Don't most of them just slot it home to one particular side? Only a few teams run out a guy that just blast the **** out of the ball.
You sir, are a moron.

He could probably strike out the best batters in the MLB and wicket the best batters in world cricket 1 out of 5 too eh. It's exactly the same situation, you are an idiot for not understanding that. i.e. if DG steps up to pitch in MLB, I don't expect his weak, girl-throw to even make it to the batter, never mind strike him out, and likewise i don't expect his weak, girl-shot to beat Reina. His only shot at this is if Reina makes a mistake, or he luckboxes some crazy swerve that catches Reina out.

Watching professional players score penalties against professional goalies and amateur players score penalties against amateur goalies is not the same as an amateur scoring against a professional. You have never kicked a football if you think any different. Your scale of what constitutes power and accuracy is completely different then Reina's. For people itt who think Reina "will guess wrong at least once", make no mistake, DG under no circumstances has enough power and technique to kick the ball powerfully enough that Reina is at any point "guessing" where to dive. What makes the morons itt even begin to think they can kick the ball powerfully? If you could kick the ball with the power and accuracy like anything approaching a professional then you would all be a professional too. But you can't, and you aren't. This stupidity puts me on life tilt. It's like me claiming I can throw like Tom Brady despite knowing very little about NFL, then arguing with people who actually do know something about it.

FWIW, I have probably have greater football knowledge, have taken more penalties against better opponents (usually with success) and have played to a higher standard than 90-95% of the ppl in this thread. I doubt you have ever kicked a football, and certainly have never had formal coaching or played against decent opposition.
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Re: Daniel Negreanu challenging Liverpool keeper Jose Reina to a penalty shootout?!?!?

Since everyone is so sure about their opinion.. why dont we start some betting then?
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:48 AM   #308
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Re: Daniel Negreanu challenging Liverpool keeper Jose Reina to a penalty shootout?!?!?

There are people who willing to bet, on both sides.

Personally, I'd snap call this bet if it was with one of my mates, but I prefer not to get involved monetarily with people I don't know from Adam over the internet.

Edit: I'd mach 5, insta call.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:53 AM   #309
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Re: Daniel Negreanu challenging Liverpool keeper Jose Reina to a penalty shootout?!?!?

Its just ridiulous that people think Negreanu can do this. Reina is one of the best goalkeepers in the world. I am a Liverpool fan and see him week in and week out. I can tell you now Negreanu has no chance. Reina will just wait for him to take the kick and react accordingly, I will happily bet on the outcome of this.
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Re: Daniel Negreanu challenging Liverpool keeper Jose Reina to a penalty shootout?!?!?

Has DN confirmed this is actually going ahead? The source was The Sun after all, the same paper that ran a story about a squirrel terrorising 6 people in a town called Knutsford...
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Old 10-04-2009, 10:00 AM   #311
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Re: Daniel Negreanu challenging Liverpool keeper Jose Reina to a penalty shootout?!?!?

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Since everyone is so sure about their opinion.. why dont we start some betting then?
I am willing to bet, but the thing is that the bet hasnt been confirmed yet and we need dates, etc.
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Re: Daniel Negreanu challenging Liverpool keeper Jose Reina to a penalty shootout?!?!?

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Its just ridiulous that people think Negreanu can do this. Reina is one of the best goalkeepers in the world. I am a Liverpool fan and see him week in and week out. I can tell you now Negreanu has no chance. Reina will just wait for him to take the kick and react accordingly, I will happily bet on the outcome of this.
I feel sorry for you, that you have to watch that Benitez ****ee week in week out.
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Re: Daniel Negreanu challenging Liverpool keeper Jose Reina to a penalty shootout?!?!?

Cmon guys.

- He only needs to be better than ~13% to score.
- He said in the thread he had played soccer at high school.

Seems like DN has an edge to me, although it wouldnt suprise me if Reina saved all 5.

If it was me, id just run up straight and toe punt the ball at max power. Pretty random where those go but i reckon I'd do better than 13%.
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Re: Daniel Negreanu challenging Liverpool keeper Jose Reina to a penalty shootout?!?!?

Also, the poker/golf/tennis analogies are completely clueless.
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Old 10-04-2009, 10:12 AM   #315
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Re: Daniel Negreanu challenging Liverpool keeper Jose Reina to a penalty shootout?!?!?

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Cmon guys.

- He only needs to be better than ~13% to score.
- He said in the thread he had played soccer at high school.

Seems like DN has an edge to me, although it wouldnt suprise me if Reina saved all 5.

If it was me, id just run up straight and toe punt the ball at max power. Pretty random where those go but i reckon I'd do better than 13%.
That strategy has a negative chance of success. (Why negative and not zero? Because to toe punt the ball powerfully enough to beat Reina you will break your toe or fall flat on your arse long before you get anywhere near scoring)
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