Are you that dense, dood? Nobody cares if you can do it.

Can he hire a pro to cycle ahead of him and be in his draft?

Apparently you do because you keep missing the point. Here i'll help you out...

If a 70 year old man can do the bike ride i did. Dan with all his resources... can easily do 300 miles in two days if he tries.

If i can do 3000 miles in a month with my limit resources and ability. Dan with all his resources... can easily do 300 miles in two days if he tries.

Are you that dense?

Winds are totally variable. Just in the last 7 days we went from strong winds from the desert NE (a head wind if ur heading to Las Vegas), to a storm from the west (a tail wind if ur heading to Las Vegas).

I go up to the high desert often and in the morning (6am) it can be no wind, and by noon have 30 mph winds..

I'd do it on a recumbent.

Doubt he plans to not sleep at all and do a few 8 balls along way so I'd guess his heart will be fine.

Serious question for the cycling experts (no sarcasm), GentJack, faxanadu, etc...

What do you think about the impact of something like EPO on DB's chances?

I mentioned it earlier itt because a friend of mine who raced semi-pro in France and personally knows racers who actually experimented with EPO told me it made a huuuuuuge difference in their performance levels, and he thinks that it could make DB's side of the bet go from almost impossible to definitely doable with 6 weeks of training.

I'm curious what you guys think about it.

That would only help if there were more flats. But with all the climbing it just wouldn't be worth it to organize this (and pay someone, etc). Drafting doesn't help you at all on climbs. Climbing is about weight, gearing and your lungs - drafting is the last thing you're worried about.

It's not out of the realm of possibility that it could help. But I think there's required periods that it has to be in your body in order to really help you. So he'd have to start right away, like today. Also, my understanding of EPO is that it doesn't help your performance outright, but it helps your recovery from that performance. So it would help him in the sense that this is a multi-day effort (i.e. will make the second day "easier") but it's not going to make him jet around on a bike. If you're a 20MPH cyclist, you'll still be one the next day (because otherwise you'd be a 12MPH cyclist on a tough second day). I hope that makes sense. This is why EPO is basically only used by multi-day tour racers, not too many others in pro sports need that type of recovery.

I have a house in Joshua Tree. Its 2.5 hours to Dan's house in LA and 2.5 hours to the Vegas Strip from my driveway in J Tree. I drive the likely route through the mojave desert that he is going to take to Vegas all the time. The weather will be perfect in a month to do this and as long as he switches his schedule to leave LA around midnight and sleeps during the day this will not be hard to accomplish IF the following is in place:

--multiple types of bikes with multiple backups in case of problems. one type of bike for the grades and another for the flats. and he will want a bike mechanic on his team
--suppport team with multiple vehicles, including a car in front to provide illumination at night and a car in back to protect him.
--the wind isn't bad. the wind (and the weather) can change up here fast. the desert kills people from out of town all the time--flash floods and heat. in late march shouldn't be a problem but there is no way of knowing what the wind is going to be like on day 2.
--he seriously trains for the next month

Until we know the conditions of the bet it is silly to wager on this.

if the terms are that he can only use one bike and his feet can't ever touch the ground. Then yes he will lose.

its a great prop bet because all of us are talking about it. I discussed it with a friend who cycles long distances all the time who lives up here and is familar with Dan and he thinks it is very doable. So much so that he thinks I could do it with minimal training--and i am an overweight mid 40's keyboard warrior who hasn't ridden a bike in 30 years.

Once the parameters of the prop bet are set and assuming that they aren't too onerous I will be happy to escrow and will take a fair amount of action that Dan will succeed.

I know the route you're talking about, I used to live in the Coachella Valley and would take those roads all the time. That's not the route they've chosen but they are going through Kelso.

Uh, no. The rear car provides all illumination, there is no car in the front. One of my least favorite activities is being the follow car driver at night. On descents you have to drive at odd angles because cars have sweeping front lights, which on turns cause the cyclist to lose all lighting for 5-10 seconds. So you almost have to countersteer the turns so that your cyclist never loses lighting. I'm probably not explaining that right because I hated doing it so much, so nerve racking!

BILZERIAN PROP BET DERIVATIVES MARKET

So many fish ITT that I can't help myself but offer a derivatives market for this prop bet

Why just have one finish line? You can wager based on how far you think Blizerian will make it:

ONE HITTER QUITTER

Los Olivos Mobile Home Park -20,000

METH HIGHWAY SPECIAL

Adelanto, CA -7000

I CHOO-CHOO-CHOOSE KELSO

Kelso, CA -5000

WHISKEY BILLS

Primm, NV -2000

I CANT BELIEVE I ATE THE WHOLE THING

Las Vegas, NV -100

TERMS

• All bets have action as soon as they are placed
• Surrender fee is 50% of wager prior to the start of Blizerians ride
• Posted odds may change over time
• Any outside or third-party forces (such as injury, crash, arrest, weather, etc) are graded as Blizerian not finishing
• For an official finish in Las Vegas, Blizerian has to finish at the agreed upon final point in Las Vegas, not just the general city
• All wagers are contingent upon the time factor of 48 hours for the entire ride. If this changes then all bets will be voided
• All wagers are contingent upon the starting location of Blue Jay Way in West Hollywood, CA. If this changes then all bets will be voided
• I reserve the right to send an observer on the day of the ride in order to validate all wagers
• Any cheating by Blizerian are graded as Blizerian not finishing. Cheating is, but not limited to, riding any part of the course on anything other than a self-propelled bicycle built for one or changing the agreed upon course.

you rode ~2700 miles in 55 days according to your log. that's <50 miles a day. no idea why you keep talking about doing daily centuries on average. and for the one day where you rode your 100 miles (with 6500 feet of elevation btw, not 8000), you took 2 rest days, then did 21 flat miles in a day, then did your century and then did 17 flat miles the day after. yep, that sure gives the impression that it was a walk in the park, right!

and besides all that, no one cares if you could do it or not (i could do it as well btw). it's just so annoying that you bring up your "3000 miles in 30 days" like 10 times and in reality you didn't even rode half of that!

i normally just ignore guys like you in those bet threads, but you took it to a whole new level.

personally, i think perkins has by far the better side. but depending on detailed rules on pain meds & harder drugs (mainly to get & keep going on day 2) it gets' a little closer. looking forward to the result.

gg?

^^ Lol DB has to be a lock if that's true.

The blood doping should help.

Blizerian's side looks good here.

He's got the means to make this less difficult than it is and enough time to get accustomed to biking for many hours at a time.

So is the bet for $600K or $1.2 million?


Who says the winner makes $1.2 million when half of it was theirs at the start?

I grew up in Glendale and have always heard people say it with the el

Dan is an attention whore. 1.2 mil sounds a helluva lot better than $600k....

Cool. I'm Glendale too. Spent about 19 years there :-)

Angeles Crest would be awesome fun to see Dan take

Unfortunately they didn't choose that. If it was Angeles Crest, I'd give anyone 3-1 on the no, ain't no way that bearded muderfawker is making it up those hills :-)

Everything that's coming out makes this far less interesting.

1. Train with Lance Armstrong
2. PEDS
3. Gets to use 5-6 different optimal bikes
4. Gets an air conditioned RV where he can rest without getting off his trail
5. Support vehicles and bikes

I know a billionaire isn't exactly going lone wolf in a state with the highest populations of poor people...but come on!

Selbst came out and said she has basically done this for free. How likely is it she has done nothing remotely close in reality (not just her, others) Let's get her on a bike one time