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02-20-2023 , 10:24 AM
Surprised there wasn't a thread about this. He played a 100/200 game and lost 115K on stream, then the next day played 200/400 and lost another 78K on stream.

While others at the table were drinking, chatting and laughing he pretty much sat there looking miserable both nights and didn't really engage socially.

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02-20-2023 , 10:34 AM
It's likely that he was unhappy about losing a significant amount of money and didn't feel like participating in social activities while feeling that way.
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02-20-2023 , 10:36 AM
The upside and downside about searching for poker fame is that you build an audience.
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02-20-2023 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TampaKn1sh
Surprised there wasn't a thread about this.
I'm curious, why do you think that's a big deal that would need it's own thread? OTOH, I don't even know if there's a Lodge live stream thread.

Last edited by madlex; 02-20-2023 at 10:55 AM.
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02-20-2023 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by wreckem713
It's likely that he was unhappy about losing a significant amount of money and didn't feel like participating in social activities while feeling that way.
Doug was saying Brad is just a quiet guy who doesn't talk much at the tables. I've just noticed in more of his recent vlogs he's started to show a misreg side where either the comments he makes or the tone he uses when talking to someone that played bad and got lucky against him starts to shine through.

He looked pretty "misreggy" on stream as well. I really don't want to see Brad turn into Hellmuth 2.0 and I don't think his fans do either.

At the end of the day, his fans want to see him succeed. They don't need him to be playing way out of his depth in a 200/400 game, they'd be happy watching him crush at 5/10 or 10/20. Poker is a hard life and it's easy for it to suck the joy and light out of you.
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02-20-2023 , 10:50 AM
For the size of the blinds that is a bad run but I am more interested in his bankroll management. Does he have the balance to play rhis game and take those losses.

May not be all his cash as well
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02-20-2023 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by madlex
I'm curious, why do you think that's a big deal?
Because Brad is the biggest poker vlogger out there and he was playing significantly larger stakes than he's used to
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02-20-2023 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
For the size of the blinds that is a bad run but I am more interested in his bankroll management. Does he have the balance to play rhis game and take those losses.

May not be all his cash as well
From what he said on Twitter most of the action was his own and he was considering letting the backers off the hook and just taking the pain himself
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02-20-2023 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TampaKn1sh
Because Brad is the biggest poker vlogger out there and he was playing significantly larger stakes than he's used to
Cool, thank you. FWIW, I already had edited my first post to indicate it wasn't meant as critical of you starting a thread.
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02-20-2023 , 11:24 AM
He's a super good dude. Felt a bit sorry for him as he bemoaned the chat pros and other social media users giving him a hard time lately.

Mad respect to him for shooting his shot with such a big piece of himself. Would have been sick to see him win half a mill.
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02-20-2023 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
He's a super good dude. Felt a bit sorry for him as he bemoaned the chat pros and other social media users giving him a hard time lately.

Mad respect to him for shooting his shot with such a big piece of himself. Would have been sick to see him win half a mill.
I think the thing is that he's sold himself as a "humble everyman" via his vlog who's friendly and approachable. But what we saw on stream for two days was a straight-up misreg, scowling the whole time and not really talking to entertain the whales.

It's a complete 180 from the persona he sells us on his vlogs, so it's a bit jarring to see.
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02-20-2023 , 11:46 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comme...e_***********/

From Doug on r/poker

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Getting a little bit tilted seeing people talk about Brad in a negative way on here and I wanted to give my two cents.

Brad does not normally play these stakes, but we told him we needed him. The value we have is we can lean on our names to help bring viewers, and even though I don't think he wanted to play this big, he sucked it up and did it to help out his friends and business.

Yes, he lost 200k in the last couple of days, but that is a drop in the button at those stakes. We have had a bunch of six-figure pots, and the action got completely insane (especially day 1). Saying he "torched 80k" is hilarious, considering that isn't even as much as what a chunk of people bought in for (and some hands had $1600 or $6400 straddles!)

Brad is a good poker player. He's not an elite high stakes pro. But he knows how to play well and is a winner in most lineups. But more than anything, he is an honest person who is willing to put himself out there. He tells his story in an honest way and he doesn't try to be someone he is not.
Brad does not normally play these stakes, but we told him we needed him.

Sounds like maybe his Lodge co-owners pressured him to play stakes he isnt comfortable with?
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02-20-2023 , 11:51 AM
I've played many hours against both Brad Owen and the poker vlogging inventor Trooper97.

Both have exactly the same personality at the poker table. Boring, nitty, silent as a mouse, and anti-social. Their vlogging personalities are just facades. There is nothing nice and friendly about Brad, and there is nothing mean about Trooper. They're just two boring, anti-social nits. They may be TITANS in the vlogsphere but they are mice in real life.
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02-20-2023 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Reggie Steer
I've played many hours against both Brad Owen and the poker vlogging inventor Trooper97.

Both have exactly the same personality at the poker table. Boring, nitty, silent as a mouse, and anti-social. Their vlogging personalities are just facades. There is nothing nice and friendly about Brad, and there is nothing mean about Trooper. They're just two boring, anti-social nits. They may be TITANS in the vlogsphere but they are mice in real life.
I've played against Brad 3 times and each time he was the chattiest guy at the table.

Something tells me you're lying
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02-20-2023 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Reggie Steer
I've played many hours against both Brad Owen and the poker vlogging inventor Trooper97.

Both have exactly the same personality at the poker table. Boring, nitty, silent as a mouse, and anti-social. Their vlogging personalities are just facades. There is nothing nice and friendly about Brad, and there is nothing mean about Trooper. They're just two boring, anti-social nits. They may be TITANS in the vlogsphere but they are mice in real life.
One thing you can count on with Ryan DePaulo is that he's a NY douchebag in his vlog and he's a NY douchebag in person. The man is just REAL, and I love it!
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02-20-2023 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
I've played against Brad 3 times and each time he was the chattiest guy at the table.

Something tells me you're lying
Were you playing at a MUG event or low stakes table with him? I know I've seen in some of his more recent vlogs his comments or tone towards players who get lucky against him has come across pretty much like a typical misreg

FWIW I've never played at the table with him or even met him, so all I really can go off of it what he puts out in content
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02-20-2023 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
I've played against Brad 3 times and each time he was the chattiest guy at the table.

Something tells me you're lying
It was at a WSOP bracelet event. I assume you played with him in one of those meet up games where he has to be nice by force and as a gimmick.
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02-20-2023 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TampaKn1sh
One thing you can count on with Ryan DePaulo is that he's a NY douchebag in his vlog and he's a NY douchebag in person. The man is just REAL, and I love it!
The most real, sincere, and transparent poker vlogger is Vegas Poker Nomad. Raw honesty and integrity. No facades. No acting. No gimmicks. Real life vlogging from the muddy trenches of the poker world wars.
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02-20-2023 , 12:22 PM
Misreg calling the top vlogger a misreg after suffering a big loss was predictable
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02-20-2023 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TampaKn1sh
I think the thing is that he's sold himself as a "humble everyman" via his vlog who's friendly and approachable. But what we saw on stream for two days was a straight-up misreg, scowling the whole time and not really talking to entertain the whales.

It's a complete 180 from the persona he sells us on his vlogs, so it's a bit jarring to see.
I don't agree with this.

I've watched lots of Brads Vlogs and as far as I know he's never sold himself as being a humble everyman at the poker table.

Brad is incredibly good at talking over pre recorded poker sessions on Youtube videos.

Just because he is comfortable making jokes and talking about his playing on a video he has edited, it doesn't mean that is his personality in real life.

That is a parasocial relationship and people often make the mistake of thinking a person is exactly the same persona on Youtube/Twitch as they are in person.

Edit - just to add, it's pretty sad that you are making these posts dunking on other content creators, when you are trying to start a channel yourself
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02-20-2023 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TampaKn1sh
Surprised there wasn't a thread about this. He played a 100/200 game and lost 115K on stream, then the next day played 200/400 and lost another 78K on stream.

While others at the table were drinking, chatting and laughing he pretty much sat there looking miserable both nights and didn't really engage socially.


Variance... brah
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02-20-2023 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Reggie Steer
I've played many hours against both Brad Owen and the poker vlogging inventor Trooper97.

Both have exactly the same personality at the poker table. Boring, nitty, silent as a mouse, and anti-social. Their vlogging personalities are just facades. There is nothing nice and friendly about Brad, and there is nothing mean about Trooper. They're just two boring, anti-social nits. They may be TITANS in the vlogsphere but they are mice in real life.
Even if he is the nice guy that his blogs portray, he is still boring AF. His success on youtube is one of the most head-scratching things I have ever seen. I tried watching him a few times and I would rather watch paint dry. Even if I can't see the value in something myself I can usually see why it appeals to the masses but his popularity as a blogger is something I completely don't understand. He even has some kind of dour air about him that puts me in bad form when I see his blogs. He always looks like his cat has just died.
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02-20-2023 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
He's a super good dude. Felt a bit sorry for him as he bemoaned the chat pros and other social media users giving him a hard time lately.

Mad respect to him for shooting his shot with such a big piece of himself. Would have been sick to see him win half a mill.
When you seek fame (and the fortune that goes with it) you have to accept the negativity.
The haters watching his you tube channel and streams give him the exact same amount of revenue as his fans.

He earned his WPT contract because a lot of people watch his channel, some of those are not fans.
Some people just like to hate and wait for people to fail.

If you are a popular social media personality with a huge income then you need to develop a thick skin.
If you cant accept that then you are in the wrong game.
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02-20-2023 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TampaKn1sh
Surprised there wasn't a thread about this. He played a 100/200 game and lost 115K on stream, then the next day played 200/400 and lost another 78K on stream.

While others at the table were drinking, chatting and laughing he pretty much sat there looking miserable both nights and didn't really engage socially.

Isn't this like 2 buy-ins?

Imagine playing 1-2 with a $600 bankroll

These are just poor gambling decisions when we all know variance does exist in poker.
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02-20-2023 , 12:57 PM
For the record: most poker players, including a lot of whales, look and sound pretty miserable when they are losing big (by their standards).

Doctors after a botched surgery and wall street traders after a major loss on the day aren't going to be particularly jovial either.

All of us have a bad day sometimes.
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