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For the record, I'm not a lawyer, but have been invited to take the bar exam.
That much is clear. I suppose it's possible you are eligible to take a bar exam even if you haven't attended law school but as far as "invited" is concerned, well, they're not in the practice of sending invitations.
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I'm not interested in being an attorney at this time, but enjoy and understand the legal process. As an owner of many companies, I have been (and currently am) involved in substantial litigation of all types and have as much experience in the court and on the stand as pretty much any great attorney.
And you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. If you're really a successful businessperson, and you have been involved in litigation, you know first hand that being a witness or a party is a far cry from being a lawyer.
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I;m not going to let this incident go away. I;m the last hard guy on earth, I wear a hat everyday that says "Keep It Simple" Looking past this incident, things need to be fixed at the WSOP in order that it does not turn into a total fiasco. Its a big operation and there is legitimately no way for the top people to see everything. This does not dismiss them from liability or correcting problems, like we have here.
You can beat this drum until it breaks. But other than here, nobody knows or remotely cares about this. The average poker player doesn't know who LV is, and if they were to learn about his history and antics, a fair amount of which are self-reported, they will have little sympathy
What needs to be "fixed" at the WSOP? It is a highly successful and profitable enterprise. If they perceive an issue here for final tables of side events going forward, sure, they might move the rail back or deploy more hall monitors, but that's going to be their own internal decision and not likely driven by a letter suggesting that they start writing checks to players who lose.
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So what we have so far in this thread are a ton of views and a ton of opinions. I have not seen one post yet that indicates anyone has any experience as a litigator or at trial. If you have watched trials on TV, you would get a feel of what cross examination of the facts and circumstances are. If you have never been cross examined or as plaintiff cross examined someone..... buckle up, the incident in my report is going to get pretty interesting.
This is what I do for a living. And well. You're experience is as a spectator. Donnie, you're out of your element.
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I'm not a person that says, do this or do that. I'm the person that examines the situation, reads and understands the facts, then comes up with a PLAN to resolve the situation.
Good thing. I'm sure the people at WSOP don't have anyone working on situations, strategies, and logistics. They must be so relieved.
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Over the next 2 days, I'm going to bring the thread step by step in detail thru the facts of the incident in the report and I'm hoping a few people want to engage and answer the cross examination I'm going to put up.
Please don't rehash the facts, which seem not to be in dispute at all and have been well chronicled here. Also, I, and I'm sure most, take it as a given that LV got knocked off his A game due to a variety of factors, one of which
may have been the needling from the rail or the presence of additional floor personnel. But you will never prove that LV played poorly or differently without specific hand histories, which you don't have, or that any poor play had any one particular cause, including perhaps LV's own nerves being in the biggest poker situation of his tournament life. Sometimes, good players make terrible blunders when faced with big moments. Gordon Vayo made light of his heads up play on Twitter (and very amusingly) a mere week after his runner up finish. Right away he realized he could have played better. Point is, even great players screw it up. You will never prove causation here.
Finally, you have not demonstrated anything here other than a set of facts that you claim amounted to some amorphous unfairness. This is a classic plaintiff's gambit, to pull on heartstrings and attempt to engender sympathy for your cause while blithely ignoring that there is no
legal remedy available to your friend.