I knew the words barking iron would tilt Lott.

Oh no, not tilt. I find it so humorous. JH, I laugh at you so much. I have a character from you I use to keep the guys on the poker table laughing. I call him Stickerpatch Duststomper from LubLuck Texas. I sit and pretend to be blowing gnats and skeeters and flies from my face while holding my eyes crossed with my hat tilted and kind of sideways and tell stories bout the time I played Moss and all dem boys. Course dey is all ded now! And ever time the waitress comes I ask for a bowl of oatmeal so I can get wayyyy the best of it. They like it. LOL

Well, the collusion discussion is D.O.A.; however, we have moved to another topic. If you want to start a new thread about this, go ahead.

Let's back up a bit:

1. Johnny, I never really thought you were anything beyond a pen-name, or at the very least the collector and teller of tales (with some license). No problem there.

2. Lott comes around and puts the question directly to you. Rather than offer proof, or address the issue head on, you seem content to throw mud at him and villify him. Once I see that, I point out that I have had doubts all along, and I am curious as to the truth behind it.

3. Now, you purport to be a long-time college professor. If so, why can't you appreciate the intellectual integrity of the question? You are an author of Poker Books, you post on this site, and your identity has come into question. Correct me if I am wrong, but you hold a healthy skepticism of what lies on the other side of the internet. Of course, you questioned Admo's willingness to swap funds with a "stranger." Of course, this is not the same situation, but the question still arises.

4. Who are you? You have a web site, but it is devoid of personal information. You will not willingly prove your authenticity, and you invited us to look you up on a Texas Website. Well, I did, and you claimed to be a Director of a Department at Texas Tech that doesn't exist. Furthermore, most people who would hold such an esteemed postiion at a major univiersity would not be shy about mentioning it on their website.

5. Also, given the position you claimed to hold, there is no doubt that you would be more known as "that professor that plays poker with the crossroaders, or someting like that" as opposed to just a poker player. That makes no sense. You should not be offended that these questions are asked, becuase you invited them by not offering proof of your identity.

Listen, for the sake of the question itself, I don't really care who you are. To me, you are a collection of stories: some good, some bad, some ugly . Lott called you out, you didn't address him or his question in a reasonable way, thus you have a hand in creating an issue bigger than it needs to be.

By the way, just because we want to know who you are doesn't mean we dislike you or you work (or should I say "hater" as you 70-year-old crossroaders seem to say these days).

Whatever. All this hate is going to make my head explode, I just wanted to say that this made me lol Johnny Hughes

The tale of the guy dying of cancer...
Who then cleaned out *** Johnny Moss' Game ***...
Enough to pay back everyone he had ever stiffed...
Was so Over-The-Top-Top ridiculous...
That all my alarms went off.

So JH is a hoax. Yawn.

I'll don't believe any of the Admo/Fiji circus.

Bull**** is par for the course on 2+2...
But people seem to believe anything they read here.

I was the Director of Petroleum Land Management at Texas Tech for 15 years. It is now called the Energy Commerce program. They have a web site, email, and a telephone number. Their graduate's salaries depend on the price of a barrel of oil. At one time, oil got down to $9 sometime in the late eighties. We were down to nine students. Now it is the largest and best program of its kind in the U.S.

As faculty, I didn't talk or write about gambling. Duh!

the brown thump posts were some of the funniest **** ive ever read

No problem. That question was hanging open for hours, you were posting on other threads, and now you finally provide this simple answer. Strange. Also, no mention of you on the TT website.

Why should there be? I retired in 2004. I left that question hanging when I could answer right away where you would jump on it to convince yourself I do not exist. This is fun for me. I am not allowed to say anything negative about you under fear of banning. I have already received one infraction today. If there is anyone fair on here, any mod, or reader that is fair, notice they are allowed to call me liars, a phony, and a made up person for hours, destroying any thread they enter. I said one word, one word about a guy and got an infraction. Lott, whom I see as a representative of TwoPlusTwo, is allowed to say anything. Oski...well pity him.

Lott has spent many months saying I do not exist when I am in the phone book, have an email address easy to find. It is foolish to post my tales and experiences here.

You have my express permission to say whatever you want about me. I don't know why it would rile you up. If someone asked me to prove my identity, I would and I'd move past it. You are the one who put yourself out there as J.H. as a poster and author. Why would you be offended if someone wanted to know if you were real or just a pen-name? Is the question itself inappropriate? Why should I believe you when you can't produce simple proof.

From your site:

If you were a full-fledged professor and a director of a department at that, why call yourself a lecturer? Huge, huge difference.

I mean you got it all hidden in the basement like a crazy aunt. You have a chance to shine a light on it, but everything remains blacker than midnight under a skillet and the issue is still whomperjawed.

Lott & Oski...

Thanks for ruining a good thread.

I called myself a Lecturer because I was a Lecturer. I was a Visiting Professor for two years, then Lecturer, a lower rank, non-tenured, easier, wonderful. Same pay. No meetings. Incidentally, is Oski your real name? Johnny Hughes is mine. I am from the old school. I wouldn't write under a fake name. It is a generational thing. I write some weird or controversial things under my own name. I have spent my whole life being Johnny Hughes and you and Lott don't believe it. It is new for me, but I think it represents you, says a whole lot about you, and nothing about me. I was Johnny Hughes before you fellows became obsessed with it, and I will be Johnny Hughes either way. Kind of wish I had the ability to change it, but that is science fiction.

I wrote about going to the Winter Blogger's Convention and playing poker with several well-known bloggers, many who wrote about it. They included Falstaff, Change 100, Ignatius, Dr. Pauly, Bikini Mary, Derek, Sweet Pablo, AlCan'tHang, Rooster, and many others. I entered the tournament under the name I taught under and write under, Johnny Hughes.

No doubt, when you guys were young, you could register on internet boards under your real name ... not Johnny Hughesxxx0112dx. Yes, that is old school. Everyone posts under a handle because they are scared and not old school; I see.

Sounds like you had a bichin' time at the Winter Blogger's Convention. Sounds like a great group of guys. lol. Tell AlCan'tHang and Rooster that I send my regards.

Of course oski is not my name. On the other hand, I haven't been selling books under that name, either.

By the way, numb nuts (I think that's Texan?) I never said I doubt "you" exist. I just don't think "you" were originally in your own stories no matter what name you go under.

Anyway, if you are not interested in proving your identity, it doesn't really matter to me. I told you before what I've always thought, and such did not really affect my opinion of them. I still think Lott is correct and you have no interest in properly setting the record straight. Okay, I will leave it alone. No skin off my teeth.

Yeah, it was really awesome. Too bad you didn't join in last week when it was on topic.

By the way, do you only walk in a straight line? Or do you turn left or right once in awhile?

As a general rule...
"Hooker-With-A-Heart-Of-Gold" and...
"Rounder-With-Honor" tales...
Are oxymoronic and highly suspect by definition.

Do you guys have any idea...
How many years a girl has to shred her character...
Before she is sucking off dudes like JH...
In a cheap West Texas motel room?

All I did was reply to a post you made in this thread. Sorry I ruined the thread. You made the post and I replied. Maybe you ruined it when you lied? No, that couldn't be it. Surely I am the villain. Getting called down on lies in America is a travesty. It must be stopped. They surely need to hang me. I am the worst of the worst. I don't hate you Hughes. Just be you. Be the fiction writer you are. Some of us Texans are tired of you portraying us as if we are barbarian old west idiots and trying to make the readers think we are.

There are readers on here from Europe and abroad that don't know. Doyle represents the poker players from this state very well. He doesn't belittle us with "New York slang" and make it sound like we are all a bunch of gun toting heathens. I am proud of my state and would welcome anyone to come play poker with us. This isn't the old west. Sammy Farha resided in Houston for many years, and so many come here, and have played here. and lived here. We aren't bad people. And we don't need to lie. This state is full of history like all the others. We aren't no better or worse than anyone else.

Not impossible if he was against a bigger SF and another wheel.

JH, Oski has a history of identical stalking to Lott, it's funny and so predicatable that if anyone was to back up Lott it would be him, just drop it or you'll have two stalkers.

+1

So you didn't read my edit, huh?

How the hell does Fossilman or Annie Duke fit in with that group of players.
Fossilman is about as non road gambler as they come.

Johnny's stories are amusing (at least sometimes). Who the hell cares if he has documented proof that none of them are exaggerated or none of them were stories that he heard and changed around so that he was in the middle of them? Who cares if he says he was a college professor and he was really a night janitor? Does it make the stories less amusing? He isn't running for President.

All it will accomplish is annoy him and he'll post less. If you don't want to read his stories, then don't. Some of us enjoy them from time to time and don't especially care if he can prove every detail. I've heard lots of stories from old timers and his are better than most. Every so often he drops a detail that I know to be true from other sources, so he isn't completely full of it.

Yes. 100% correct.

I saw that controversy between Lott and Hughes. I think Lott is correct and should not be disparaged as Hughes (IMO) is not being honest. I stated my opinion, and in return Hughes invited me to check out some Texas Magazine website.

I did that and it produced more questions than answers. I explained all that to Hughes.

Hardly stalking.

As for Fat Shaft, lets just say he is a huge liar and he got burned. Very, very, very burned. He consistently came on these boards and made arguments and stated facts that were completely opposite in what he woudl post on other sites. It was not too difficult to expose this fraud; I did; and I moved on. As far as intellectual dishonesty goes, Fat Shaft is one of a kind.

You are missing the point.

Lott (who I don't know) questioned J.H.'s authenticity. This has nothing to do with the stories, per se. But, anyway, Lott pointed out inconsistencies in certain stories; pointed out certain stories that were appropriated from other sources; and pointed out that nobody out there can corroborate who J.H. claims he is.

Rather than answer this fundamental question, J.H. has gone on a campaign to disparage Lott.

1. What is wrong with asking the question? Has something changed all of a sudden that makes it prudent to accept everything on the internet as fact?
2. Why can't J.H. just provide simple proof. After all, if he was the director of a college department at a major university for 15 years, it would be simple enough to provide proof to erase doubts.
3. Why does J.H. need to attack Lott for asking the question to begin with?
4. This can also be an issue of intellectual dishonesty as well. A lot of stories are passed off as first-person stories, but in reality, the story is probably being passed on, instead. That is a big difference. That does matter.
5. I certainly have an open mind about it, and I do think the question is important. I didn't even care until I found J.H. being evasive in providing information. (He invited me to look up some information, and it has not panned out ... I don't see why the cat-and-mouse is so necessary.)

The only thing that would keep him from posting is if he got banned from the site. Nobody wants that, of course. You see, J.H. sells books and has a website. Its not good business for him to stop hawking his wares to an accepting audience.

Again, on their own merit the stories are enjoyable, but that is not the issue here.

As an analogy: Let's say J.H. wrote a poker strategy book. Let's say that Mason decides to review it as he does with other books. Let's say the poker strategy is 100% accurate. Let's say Mason discovers that the poker strategy was lifted from one of his other books. Problem, no?

Everyone knows that Homer did create the stories told in the Iliad and the Odyssey. He was just passing it on. That is fine too, but he never claimed to invent the stories.

hahahahhahah sweet