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View Poll Results: Who is telling the truth, Clonie or FTP ?
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Clonie Gowen
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63.84% |
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Full Tilt Poker
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36.16% |
11-21-2008, 09:19 PM
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#601
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centurion
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 171
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Re: Poll: Who is telling the truth, Clonie or FTP ?
Who or Whom is telling the truth.
same thing
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11-21-2008, 09:19 PM
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#602
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: I have no axe to make cloud
Posts: 8,979
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Re: Poll: Who is telling the truth, Clonie or FTP ?
how do I vote Bastard! ?
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11-21-2008, 09:30 PM
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#603
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centurion
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Dallas
Posts: 160
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Re: Clonie suing Full Tilt
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Originally Posted by spike420211
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Right. I'm sure if you were approached by a FT rep offering you 100% rakeback, 5 figures a month to be paid into your FTP account, and bonuses for making TV tables, but it had to be a handshake deal due to the quasi legality of the whole thing, you would turn it down and get nothing.....right.
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11-22-2008, 03:08 AM
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#604
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stranger
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: a miledown on the darkside of rt 88
Posts: 13
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Re: Clonie suing Full Tilt
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Originally Posted by Crane
Clonie Gowen, an original "Team Full Tilt Poker Pro," who takes hits for the team, by posing half-naked, and who also appears in almost all of the early advertising, and still some to this day, and who wears Full Tilt logo everywhere she goes, sues Full Tilt Poker when Howard Lederer (allegedly) offers her 250K instead of a full 1% owner disbursement--a year and a half after other Team Full Tilt Poker owners received their disbursements.
Understandably insulted, Clonie hires a legal firm and sues Full Tilt Poker, which of course is her right.
What's not to like?
Meanwhile, Daniel (the Imp) Negreanu, who always says the first dribbling, diatribe that comes into his pea brain, spouts off that Clonie Gowen is through in the poker world, will never work again, will become ostracized, and henceforth, He, "The Imp" will never speak to her again. And who exactly cares besides the pea brained Imp?
What's not to like?
Meanwhile, Barry Greenstein, on his startup, 2+2 give-em some competiton web forum, Poker Road, publicly (albiet politely...alas) disagrees with "The Imp" countering every point "The Imp" made with ordinary reason and raw intelligence.
What's not to like?
Meanwhile, in a fit of latent rage Daniel "The Imp" Negreanu creates a phony, gimmick, 2+2 account with the name of Howard Lederer, and basically makes a complete tool of himself, spilling information his two closest circle jerk friends, Mike Matasow and Allen Cunningham are feeding him, in an obvious, but very feeble attempt to discredit our hero, Clonie Gowen.
What's not to like?
Meanwhile, Andy Bloch's name is never mentioned, and he quietly sits home, smoking his pipe, and reveling in anonymity while his FTP counterparts go down in flames.
Clonie Gowen, who probably plays poker better than 95% of the posters here, is called a "bad player" and hardly deserving of what she's asking for--because she's a bad player. Hello? Logic 101.
Meanwhile, all of the 14 year-old, 24-tabling, 14,000+ posts, junior millionaires, who love to write 4 U info imporant 2 all, in their spare time between hands, put up their Phil Hellmuth, Daniel Negreanu (The Imp) press lips to butt man love grovellings, espousing their general overall (lack of) intelligence and poker superiority. Their knowledge of subjects at hand and overall air of haughty arrogance, and I'm better than you and know everything while you know nothing nonsense babblings, while reading posts wearing sunglasses, pulled down cap, and hoodie shirt--all the while siding with their heroes PH, DN (The Imp), DURR and RApToR (sounds like Jurassic Park rejects, doesn't it)...continue to fascinate.
Clonie Gowen has a slam dunk case. Defendants want no publicity for their cheating, illegal, Internet gambling site and will quietly settle--hopefully (for them, the owners, who did get their disbursements) before it's too late, and someone will give "The Imp" a banana as a reward for his toolhardiness, which he will put somewhere appropriate.
And the beat goes on...
What's not to like?
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LOVE THIS POST
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11-22-2008, 03:54 AM
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#605
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grinder
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Bad Beat Hospital :)
Posts: 691
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Re: Clonie suing Full Tilt
This thread is useless without photoshop pics and/or
an actual post or two from cycalona defending herself
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11-22-2008, 04:59 AM
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enthusiast
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 51
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Re: Clonie suing Full Tilt
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
There is a world of difference between Danny Negreanu's comments and Barry Greenstein's comments about Clonie. The animosity Danny and his friends have for Clonie could not have started at the filing of the lawsuit. They have been openly referring to her as Clownie for a long, long time. So what caused all this animosity? Does anyone on NVG have a clue? How could this one girl have caused these guys to hate her so badly? Is it just because she supposedly failed to perform in tournaments? There's got to be more to it than that. You don't just start hating someone because of their ability or lack of ability to play poker.
I can understand why someone who has a better track record than her in tournaments, but yet has no endorsement deal, could be jealous. It's just sour grapes. But why have these filthy rich guys had it in for her for so long? That's the real question. Does anyone have any ideas?
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My wild guess: possibly something to do with sex.
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11-22-2008, 10:22 AM
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#607
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banned
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the Road
Posts: 325
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Re: Clonie suing Full Tilt
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Originally Posted by ruof
My wild guess: possibly something to do with sex.
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Ot lack thereof. You know that a woman like that definitely gets offers from men. Were the fulltiltboys immune to putting down a play on her? I don't think so. They say hell has no fury like a woman's scorn. Well, the male ego can get bruised up too, when dude, whether he's having delusions of grandeur or not, doesn't think he's getting what's rightfully his. He can get real spiteful. I suspect that if she were doing one of the fulltiltboys she never would have been fired.
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11-22-2008, 11:42 AM
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grinder
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Pandora Radio
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Re: Clonie suing Full Tilt
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
They say hell has no fury like a woman's scorn.
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Nit time.
The quote you've butchered, is from the 1697 play "The Morning Bride" by William Congreve:
As you'll answer it, take heed
This Slave commit no Violence upon
Himself. I've been deceiv'd. The Publick Safety
Requires he should be more confin'd; and none,
No not the Princes self, permitted to
Confer with him. I'll quit you to the King.
Vile and ingrate! too late thou shalt repent
The base Injustice thou hast done my Love:
Yes, thou shalt know, spite of thy past Distress,
And all those Ills which thou so long hast mourn'd;
Heav'n has no Rage, like Love to Hatred turn'd,
Nor Hell a Fury, like a Woman scorn'd.
Do you see the difference between "a woman's scorn" and "a woman scorned"?
/nit hijack
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11-22-2008, 11:46 AM
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banned
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the Road
Posts: 325
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Re: Clonie suing Full Tilt
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Originally Posted by patstap
Nit time.
The quote you've butchered, is from the 1697 play "The Morning Bride" by William Congreve:
As you'll answer it, take heed
This Slave commit no Violence upon
Himself. I've been deceiv'd. The Publick Safety
Requires he should be more confin'd; and none,
No not the Princes self, permitted to
Confer with him. I'll quit you to the King.
Vile and ingrate! too late thou shalt repent
The base Injustice thou hast done my Love:
Yes, thou shalt know, spite of thy past Distress,
And all those Ills which thou so long hast mourn'd;
Heav'n has no Rage, like Love to Hatred turn'd,
Nor Hell a Fury, like a Woman scorn'd.
Do you see the difference between "a woman's scorn" and "a woman scorned"?
/nit hijack
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Can you do "Somewhere over the Rainbow?"
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11-22-2008, 12:08 PM
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#610
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banned
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the Road
Posts: 325
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Re: Clonie suing Full Tilt
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Originally Posted by IWant2Believe
Isn't it obvious.....Negranu (I don't give a **** to look up correct spelling) is just mad at Clonie for cockblocking him from his Full Tilt "buddies"...
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That's some funny stuff right thar now.
LARRY THE CABLE GUY
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11-22-2008, 12:10 PM
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#611
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: got my straw in your milkshake
Posts: 4,231
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Re: Clonie suing Full Tilt
Jose can you see
by the bongs early light
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11-23-2008, 06:58 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Old Europe
Posts: 12,011
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Re: Clonie suing Full Tilt
so anything new?
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11-23-2008, 11:41 AM
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#613
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Stockholm
Posts: 7,779
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Re: Clonie suing Full Tilt
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Originally Posted by STOPRAKEGREED
Something like this is true of just about every thread on 2p2. There are a lot of IRregular posters.
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Except I dont work for PS anymore and have played something like 300k hands on FTP in the last 18 months vs. 3k on PS.
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11-23-2008, 01:31 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,387
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Re: Clonie suing Full Tilt
Check out this link. Gives you a good idea of whats what in the lawsuit.
http://www.pokerroad.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2299
Post from one of the guys on the forum
Andrew Feldman
ESPN Poker Guy
"BJ- Great analysis, but why would she do this? I have off the record information about this case and with that in mind, I can't imagine she'll get a penny out of this lawsuit.
I also don't understand what took her so long. If everyone was getting checks back in 2007, except for Clonie, that should've been a major wake up call at that time. Not a year later. I know that if everyone at my job got their paycheck today and I didn't get one, I'm sure I would have an answer of "why not" ASAP.
On another note, you said, "2. Clonie Gowen's skill as a poker player or her tournament results. "
There is a lot more involving that information than you think."
WTG
Last edited by worsethangus; 11-23-2008 at 01:37 PM.
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11-23-2008, 08:06 PM
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enthusiast
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 92
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Re: Clonie suing Full Tilt
I think maybe 500K would be fair or double what Lederer offered, 40mil is just ridiculous
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