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Old 01-25-2012, 10:05 PM   #31
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Wait so is this money he voluntarily agreed to loan FTP? What were the stipulations on this? Also curious why it's greedy for Jesus to want money owed to him but standard for FTP players to want it. I don't really understand the details on why he's owed money but if he has a legit claim to it I wouldn't call him a scumbag for wanting to get it.
This is incredibly poor logic. It's 100% money that was stolen. If a bank robber puts 10k in a bag from a bank, leaves the bank, and gets it confiscated when he's arrested, then him suing the cops for the 10k lol
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:05 PM   #32
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Re: Chris Ferguson’s Secret FTP Bank Accounts and Threats to GBT Deal

Dam each day that come out a news, it's always getting worse.

dam u Jesus, lulz DOj has $300kk seized from him, burn jezus, burn.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:06 PM   #33
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Any chance he could play in wsop ever again?
I would be very surprised if you ever see him there again.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:06 PM   #34
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Wait so is this money he voluntarily agreed to loan FTP? What were the stipulations on this? Also curious why it's greedy for Jesus to want money owed to him but standard for FTP players to want it. I don't really understand the details on why he's owed money but if he has a legit claim to it I wouldn't call him a scumbag for wanting to get it.
The issue here is that he was paid ridiculous amounts of money in "profit", but the company didn't have the player funds so the "profit" never really existed.

So he was essentially loaning FTP our money.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:08 PM   #35
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Re: Chris Ferguson’s Secret FTP Bank Accounts and Threats to GBT Deal

That's what I have been saying the last few weeks-those greedy scumbags will ruin this deal,everything they are involved in is about to fail because their greed is just too big.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:10 PM   #36
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LOL Ian Imrich
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:11 PM   #37
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The issue here is that he was paid ridiculous amounts of money in "profit", but the company didn't have the player funds so the "profit" never really existed.

So he was essentially loaning FTP our money.
oh ok thanks for the clarification.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:12 PM   #38
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i dont think this will actually stop the deal, but if he ****s up the deal maybe its time to bring crucifixion back into style
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:13 PM   #39
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Someone needs to kick him where the sun doesn't shine.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:14 PM   #40
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Wait so is this money he voluntarily agreed to loan FTP? What were the stipulations on this? Also curious why it's greedy for Jesus to want money owed to him but standard for FTP players to want it. I don't really understand the details on why he's owed money but if he has a legit claim to it I wouldn't call him a scumbag for wanting to get it.
This was part of his 80+ million$ in distributions that were hidden in accounts in the name of the company, over and above the $25+M that he took into his own accounts that the DOJ found evidence of. While you couldn't withdraw $5K, he was havig no problems withdrawing and sharing tens of millions. He never lent FTP money out of this account until after BF when the company had already been insolvent for months but no one on the outside knew that. Of course no one expected in April that we would ever find out.

I would venture to say you will have a hard time finding ppl that agree with you that he should have that $14+M back, while innocent victims are still out over $300M. Maybe if he handed back the $70M he did get instead, it would be a step in the right direction
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:15 PM   #41
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The issue here is that he was paid ridiculous amounts of money in "profit", but the company didn't have the player funds so the "profit" never really existed.

So he was essentially loaning FTP our money.
Did he receive that much more than others to make it "ridiculous"? As far as i understand they all received their shares, and this was the share he was supposed to get. Yet he was willing to loan it to FTP, which he never got back.

I don't think its relevant that its player money, since it long ago became his, and he loaned it to FTP. There is no reason to believe Bitar or Ray would not have done the same (trying to claim back 14.5 mill), so i don't see how it makes him worst than Bitar or Howard.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:17 PM   #42
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Did he receive that much more than others to make it "ridiculous"? As far as i understand they all received their shares, and this was the share he was supposed to get. Yet he was willing to loan it to FTP, which he never got back.

I don't think its relevant that its player money, since it long ago became his, and he loaned it to FTP.
I wasn't saying his share was ridiculous, I was saying he received ridiculous profits because most of those profits never even existed. The company was completely insolvent at the end and he was still being paid profit like everything was hunky dorey.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:17 PM   #43
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WWJD? Take the money and run?
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:19 PM   #44
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I wasn't saying his share was ridiculous, I was saying he received ridiculous profits because most of those profits never even existed. The company was completely insolvent at the end and he was still being paid profit like everything was hunky dorey.
Wouldn't the same apply to Bitar and Howard? I don't know the exact numbers, so please correct me if i am wrong. Why should we be surprised by his action at all? As far as i understand, Bitar and Howard received their shares and Jesus has $14.5 missing that he is supposed to get. So the profits that never existed is not relevant here, since they all plundered our money.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:21 PM   #45
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a lawyer named Imrich. I'm rich. come on now, this is supposed to be real life.
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