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Old 02-19-2017, 05:55 AM   #1
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Chico poker network skin BetOnline blackjack dealer caught cheating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1EiWvN11nU#t=02m

Saw this making its rounds tonight, figured it needed to be posted here as BetOnline offers poker to US and ROW.

User on BetOnline was playing blackjack and caught the dealer pulling the second card.

reddit thread on this topic: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comm...ught_cheating/

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Old 02-19-2017, 06:32 AM   #2
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Re: Chico poker network skin BetOnline blackjack dealer caught cheating

If this is true he shouldnt have done the standup comedy - it was funny though.
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Old 02-19-2017, 07:09 AM   #3
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Re: Chico poker network skin BetOnline blackjack dealer caught cheating

Slowed down copy


Just looking at the video I mean he clearly did in fact push the fist card up and grab the second card . . .
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Old 02-19-2017, 08:00 AM   #4
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:30 AM   #5
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What is the implication of him skipping the card? That he or more likely someone communicating with him knows the exact order of the deck?
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:51 AM   #6
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Can someone explain to me why the author and everyone in the comment section is absolutely sure it was cheating? I've never played blackjack, but to me it looks like most likely an unintentional mistake. I've seen dealers making all kinds of mistakes on poker tables, no one ever suspected cheating taking place. This case wouldn't even arouse my suspicion, since he would also have to know the cards coming etc. and the stakes are not worth it. Have this happened o multiple occasions, because if it was single instance I really don't get it?
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:53 AM   #7
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What is the implication of him skipping the card? That he or more likely someone communicating with him knows the exact order of the deck?
They prob scan the deck before putting it in the shoe and know every card coming then bust ppl on hail mary bets or similar situations of bigger money on table. Scum. Trump should drain the swamp on these panamanian ****s. Ban all online gambling
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Old 02-19-2017, 10:01 AM   #8
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Can someone explain to me why the author and everyone in the comment section is absolutely sure it was cheating? I've never played blackjack, but to me it looks like most likely an unintentional mistake. I've seen dealers making all kinds of mistakes on poker tables, no one ever suspected cheating taking place. This case wouldn't even arouse my suspicion, since he would also have to know the cards coming etc. and the stakes are not worth it. Have this happened o multiple occasions, because if it was single instance I really don't get it?
How csn it be a mistake to kick a card into the air like that

Operating a shoe is a very simple process. Pull down to eject top card
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Old 02-19-2017, 10:26 AM   #9
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Re: Chico poker network skin BetOnline blackjack dealer caught cheating

not looked at the video, but the screengrab from the video posted shows a guy having 11/25, which seems vaguely concerning
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Old 02-19-2017, 11:39 AM   #10
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How csn it be a mistake to kick a card into the air like that

Operating a shoe is a very simple process. Pull down to eject top card
Operating a shoe might be simple, but people are not machines and their motions vary. Have you never seen a dealer make a little extra motion or play with fingers because he is bored? To me it looks like this dealer was not even doing this consciously and he didn't notice the card got kicked.

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Old 02-19-2017, 12:01 PM   #11
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Operating a shoe might be simple, but people are not machines and their motions vary. Have you never seen a dealer make a little extra motion or play with fingers because he is bored? To me it looks like this dealer was not even doing this consciously and he didn't notice the card got kicked.

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Old 02-19-2017, 12:02 PM   #12
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not looked at the video, but the screengrab from the video posted shows a guy having 11/25, which seems vaguely concerning
The player split the deuces and the first hand busts hence the "25" he gets a nine with the second hand hence the "11".

Don't know why the dealer messes about with the first hand that busts, would have thought he mucks it and takes it the chips or just leaves it there.

I haven't played BJ for years, but the shoe is odd the way it shows the entire card back, iirc shoes cover up most of the card, just leaving the lower edge showing.

Anyone know how the real cards get translated into virtual cards in these casino set ups? It isn't unreasonable that if there were chips involved, the order of the cards could be known to the house.
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Old 02-19-2017, 12:13 PM   #13
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Operating a shoe might be simple, but people are not machines and their motions vary. Have you never seen a dealer make a little extra motion or play with fingers because he is bored? To me it looks like this dealer was not even doing this consciously and he didn't notice the card got kicked.
you seem too invested in this bruh. Gotta find a new hustle i suppose
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Old 02-19-2017, 12:41 PM   #14
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you seem too invested in this bruh. Gotta find a new hustle i suppose
Please tell me how am I too invested in this, when its actually me who asks for explanation why others are invested in this case?
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Old 02-19-2017, 01:15 PM   #15
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Re: Chico poker network skin BetOnline blackjack dealer caught cheating

As far as reading the cards, 15 yrs ago Ballys was testing a shoe with a reader in the exit lip. It frequently failed but by now they should have perfected it. Here it looks like a camera is under the glass that the card passes over right in front of the shoe.
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Old 02-19-2017, 01:40 PM   #16
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Re: Chico poker network skin BetOnline blackjack dealer caught cheating

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Anyone know how the real cards get translated into virtual cards in these casino set ups? It isn't unreasonable that if there were chips involved, the order of the cards could be known to the house.
Looks like there's some kind of scanner in front of the shoe, you can see him drag each card slowly over it.
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Old 02-19-2017, 01:42 PM   #17
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As far as reading the cards, 15 yrs ago Ballys was testing a shoe with a reader in the exit lip. It frequently failed but by now they should have perfected it. Here it looks like a camera is under the glass that the card passes over right in front of the shoe.
The technology is in use in Baccarat games all over the world already.
You could position that sensor to give you an advantage if you were operating a casino in a jurisdiction with weak legal controls.
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Old 02-19-2017, 01:45 PM   #18
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An illegally operating offshore casino site is cheating.....alert the media!
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Old 02-19-2017, 02:12 PM   #19
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Re: Chico poker network skin BetOnline blackjack dealer caught cheating

sample size.... 1000s hands dealt every day.. many recorded. find 1 more example
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Old 02-19-2017, 04:29 PM   #20
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lol there's an actual video of the dealer cheating and ppls response is "ok well find another video of them cheating before accusing"
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Old 02-19-2017, 04:38 PM   #21
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I don't get it. There are many thousands of hands played per day. Hundreds of them recorded. There are explanations for 1 single hand other than 'the whole of chico live dealing must be rigged'. I'm not talking about what is likely. Not about what is or is not likely the case. Just don't want to burn chico to the ground over 1 hand from 1 dealer.
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Old 02-19-2017, 04:41 PM   #22
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lol there's an actual video of the dealer cheating and ppls response is "ok well find another video of them cheating before accusing"
Does seem a reasonable request. If this is the method of cheating then there should be multiple examples of it.
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Old 02-19-2017, 04:46 PM   #23
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So sick.

The perfect spot for them to cheat. Player busts, Dealer gets 18 rather than player getting 20 and dealer sitting at 16.
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Old 02-19-2017, 04:54 PM   #24
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Edited OP with anigif

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Old 02-19-2017, 05:16 PM   #25
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Re: Chico poker network skin BetOnline blackjack dealer caught cheating

if they are that bold to cheat players in such a public way imagine what they would do be willing to do when there is no chance anyone can prove they are cheating (ie: poker)..... I definitely won't be playing there anymore.

Of course a big difference is that poker isn't again the House...but still.
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