What a strange ad-hominem-ish projecting-ish post. I have literally never played blackjack online and have no connection to any online gaming website (other than the ones I play online poker on ldo) and I think the most reasonable explanation this far is it being a dealer tick. It's one hand with one small bet in one video. Where's the 5000 other times this has happened if it's an active scam from the site?

IT's not "trying to spin it", it's common sense and not jumping to conclusions. Occam's razor.

To me it seems like the claim being made is that this is systemic cheating. Where's the shred of evidence showing it's systemic and deliberate? We have a sample of one (1) hand.

sodapoppin has 100's of hours playing on bol flipping around to every dealer randomly and his twitch vod's are available publicly. if this was intentional cheating there would be other instances, fact is there isnt.

I love how people don't want to jump to conclusions and give these seedy operators the benefit of the doubt lol.

What is that saying about separating a fool and his money again?


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There isn't one

every single person who has ever placed a bet on blackjack or roulete or any casino game that has a house edge is a loser doesnt matter if it is online or live. so obviously when this video pops up showing something shady taking place all of the same degenerates make a rationalization that they have been cheated and thats why they lose at online. the rest of us intelligent humans know the real reason they lose is because of math.

so obviously this and the reddit thread is going to be full of people crying cheating because 100% of the players participating are losers.

BetOnline switched live casino game providers today after "customer feedback". Says all you need to know about the cheating video

That is the house edge if people play perfect strategy. And they don't. Like splitting 2s against a 10.
I've worked in casinos and to me, this just looks like a sloppy dealer. He may have even realised what he'd done and just thought 'f*** it, nobody will notice'.
I've seen this situation happen in a life casino but the dealer himself knew he'd done it and told his supervisor who called surveillance and rectified the hand.

Typically idiotic post. Its completely reasonable to play a game with negative EV and it doesn't make someone a loser. If you go skiing, you shell out $120 on a lift to ski for a few hours, are you a loser for "losing" the $120? Its no different than engaging in any other recreational activity that costs money to engage in. Gambling at a casino is entertaining for a lot of people. You get a few free drinks and have some laughs. If you gather around the roulette table with some friends and drop a few dollars, that doesn't make you a "loser". But I guess you'd need friends to understand that.

Uhhhh.....

I know how card counting works. I haven't watched any of his instructional videos. I have watched some of the videos where he enters a casino and plays blackjack. He doesn't seem to know what the hell he is doing. For instance, he doesn't seem to know the difference between tracking and locating. The things he says are often just stupid, the things he does are often just stupid. I have known several AP blackjack players, and none think like him, none behave like him. He seems by far most interested in convincing everyone around him that he is a card counting guru. It's very strange to me. Maybe he is just unique, but I have my doubts.

you are a loser in that every bet you place is a loss. nothing more, nothing less.

Doesn't see how this could be unintentional. However, the risk of getting caught is so much larger than the reward of cheating players out of a few hundred $ once in a while. Who would play on that site after watching this video?

If casino has 2% edge in BJ it is $2 for every round, but one cheat like that is $100 cash for one round, like 50 regular games? Maybe they pull it only when gambler is looking like handicapped in some way (like professional BJ player for example)?

To play devil's advocate maybe the dealer just likes to occasionally fiddle with the card like that before sliding it out of the shoe and he ended up accidentally sliding out the one underneath instead. But either way, it's not a good look and if it's an innocent mistake that habit should be dropped immediately.

Ah, so they use a third party and instead of just paying them hourly, they must pay them a % of the take. ******ed.

I guess the question is, when did this become public knowledge? I know it was on Reddit first, but I don't spend any time there. Your account is brand new and spends a pretty large amount of your first few posts defending an online casino from the 3rd world. Why? What incentive do you have for it to be rigged or not rigged?

It seems to me you made your account just to post here but were smart enough to sprinkle in some random posts just to make it less obvious.

Another question, how did such an expert on BOL JUST find out what 2+2 is? I call bs bro, sorry......

you caught me

* Statement analysis alert *

Best post in this thread.
Or it could be pure P.R. B.S.

Blame it on a phantom third-party. Fire the old dealers. Spend a little bread on changing the dealers' attire and environment so it looks like a new third-party outfit...

I'm sure that average house edge is greater than 0.6%

but i see your point

i dont think im ever going to play on Betonline for poker anymore.

Live card games are rigged

When the house is cheating it is #UltimateBet

pretty sure he's just playing a character in those videos to blend in.

BetOnline is one of the scummiest sites still operating.