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03-26-2012, 11:42 PM
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journeyman
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Re: Chad Elie (Black Friday payment processor) pleads guilty
Why would the prosecution allow such a sweet deal? I thought they really had their heels dug in on this one.
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03-27-2012, 12:12 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: nyc
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Re: Chad Elie (Black Friday payment processor) pleads guilty
Who knows.
Maybe Elie had personal and incriminating correspondence with Bitar et al.
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03-27-2012, 12:31 AM
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Formerly red
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Re: Chad Elie (Black Friday payment processor) pleads guilty
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Originally Posted by blueknight
i did 10 months in a minimum security fed. believe me, its not "club fed" like you hear. it sucks beyond description
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Care to elaborate? I've always understood it to be as easy a time as a convict could reasonably expect.
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03-27-2012, 06:57 AM
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enthusiast
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 90
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Re: Chad Elie (Black Friday payment processor) pleads guilty
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
Care to elaborate? I've always understood it to be as easy a time as a convict could reasonably expect.
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for us, the only good thing was were werent in cells, a big dormitory. they tell you when to eat,sleep, go outside, no television,no cell phones,no computers, no reasonable health care. horrible food, you just stick with your own race and keep your mouth shut.
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03-27-2012, 08:30 AM
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PPA Board Member/LSN Dir
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Re: Chad Elie (Black Friday payment processor) pleads guilty
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Originally Posted by blueknight
for us, the only good thing was were werent in cells, a big dormitory. they tell you when to eat,sleep, go outside, no television,no cell phones,no computers, no reasonable health care. horrible food, you just stick with your own race and keep your mouth shut.
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Having to do time anywhere "sucks beyond description."
Having to do time in a Minimum Security Federal prison sucks less than having to do it at most other prisons.
Skallagrim
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03-27-2012, 10:02 AM
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adept
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 794
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Re: Chad Elie (Black Friday payment processor) pleads guilty
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Originally Posted by Skallagrim
Having to do time anywhere "sucks beyond description."
Having to do time in a Minimum Security Federal prison sucks less than having to do it at most other prisons.
Skallagrim
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Having visited more prisons than I care to remember (as an appellate attorney) and having discussed the matter with a lot of inmates, I would say the quality of life does not correlate with the security classification. It all comes down to how the place is run.
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03-27-2012, 11:37 AM
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veteran
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,308
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Re: Chad Elie (Black Friday payment processor) pleads guilty
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Originally Posted by caseycjc
If he only has to do 6-12 months at Clubfed and forfeit 500K, I'd say that's a pretty sweet deal.
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Lol this attitude.
"So he lost half a mil and only got a year in the pokey. He'll do alright."
1) As Blueknight said, ANY prison time ANYWHERE sucks. "Clubfed" might seem like a piece of cake compared to some state pens, but you're still crammed like sardines with a bunch of other criminals and you're life is not your own. I feel for him.
2) What makes you think he has that kind of loot buried in his back yard? I'm amazed the poker players from FTP et al are even surprised the money went up in smoke when they just ASSUME everybody involved made a mint.
Don't forget: it's because of the sacrifice of guys like this you were able to play your $0.02/$0.05 cash and $0.25 daily tourneys. Light a candle, have a bit of empathy.
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03-27-2012, 11:45 AM
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PPA Board Member/LSN Dir
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Re: Chad Elie (Black Friday payment processor) pleads guilty
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Originally Posted by Elbow Jobertski
Having visited more prisons than I care to remember (as an appellate attorney) and having discussed the matter with a lot of inmates, I would say the quality of life does not correlate with the security classification. It all comes down to how the place is run.
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Having also visited numerous prisons as a Criminal Defense attorney, I agree that security classification is not a 100% guarantee of a decently run facility. Yet minimum security Federal Prisons are generally the "best" run as far as considering where to do time if you have to do time.
That said, I agree in general with the sentiments of bulls-horn. While this may seem like a "sweet deal" in relation to the maximum sentence possible given all the charges originally filed against Mr. Elie, it is hardly a "slap on the wrist."
Skallagrim
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03-27-2012, 11:48 AM
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veteran
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Razzville
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Re: Chad Elie (Black Friday payment processor) pleads guilty
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Originally Posted by bulls_horn
Don't forget: it's because of the sacrifice of guys like this you were able to play your $0.02/$0.05 cash and $0.25 daily tourneys. Light a candle, have a bit of empathy.
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Cmon, they weren't doing it for love, they took a gamble which didn't pay off.
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03-27-2012, 12:16 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: @Kevmath
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Re: Chad Elie and John Campos plead guilty
No Black Friday trial for now as John Campos is expected to plead guilty to a misdemeanor:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanva...demeanor-deal/
Last edited by Kevmath; 03-27-2012 at 12:35 PM.
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03-27-2012, 12:17 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Tunica, Ms.
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Re: Chad Elie (Black Friday payment processor) pleads guilty
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Originally Posted by bulls_horn
Lol this attitude.
"So he lost half a mil and only got a year in the pokey. He'll do alright."
1) As Blueknight said, ANY prison time ANYWHERE sucks. "Clubfed" might seem like a piece of cake compared to some state pens, but you're still crammed like sardines with a bunch of other criminals and you're life is not your own. I feel for him.
2) What makes you think he has that kind of loot buried in his back yard? I'm amazed the poker players from FTP et al are even surprised the money went up in smoke when they just ASSUME everybody involved made a mint.
Don't forget: it's because of the sacrifice of guys like this you were able to play your $0.02/$0.05 cash and $0.25 daily tourneys. Light a candle, have a bit of empathy.
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Get real they broke the law like every other criminal not for anyone other than themselves and money. For all the charges he got off easy with this plea bargain.
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03-27-2012, 12:41 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: @Kevmath
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Re: Chad Elie and John Campos plead guilty
In Nathan Vardi's article on Elie's plea, he also gives up the rights to $25,000,000 in several payment processing accounts:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanva...ney-man-folds/
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03-27-2012, 01:02 PM
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PPA Board Member/LSN Dir
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Re: Chad Elie and John Campos plead guilty
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Originally Posted by Kevmath
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A misdemeanor ?
If this preliminary report is true and Campos will plead to merely a single misdemeanor, then this is the DOJ acting scared, not Campos.
Skallagrim
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03-27-2012, 01:11 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: hookers and massages
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Re: Chad Elie (Black Friday payment processor) pleads guilty
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Originally Posted by SeriAce
Yeah... Gosh, you know, your concepts are really interesting, Mister NoMeansYes_.
Unfortunately for them, the money they transfered was real and those transactions they made were illegal. So their bail is twenty thousand dollars.
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yay
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03-27-2012, 02:27 PM
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enthusiast
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 90
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Re: Chad Elie (Black Friday payment processor) pleads guilty
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Originally Posted by Skallagrim
Having to do time anywhere "sucks beyond description."
Having to do time in a Minimum Security Federal prison sucks less than having to do it at most other prisons.
Skallagrim
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i actually was pretty lucky. one of the old guys i buddied up with was a capo in the detroit mob family and got MUCH RESPECT inside. i didnt know who he was for my first 3 months. he just seemed like a nice old guy. i later learned he was also a stone cold killer. but he was a good old dude
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