You will all apologise for the sheer lack of knowledge you all have .The poker companys are going to get a massive wake up call in about 2 weeks time.

You can call it what you want dealace but when it came to the cards I beat you heads up ,dont even bother questioning my motives.

You will end up thanking me when I show Haley hintz what ive found out.

watch this space DEALACE.. more to come after what ive just found.

Well after I made This Post in this thread about various lingering accounts, I received an email from someone who claims to be close to this scandal. Without giving too much info from the person who sent me the info, It appears to be legit. I will let the public be the judge though.

After making the post linked above, I received this email
and this email shortly after
I asked this person some questions from the above 2 emails, and this was the reply I got:

I will keep some stuff private, but overall it seems legit. Then ElevenGrover contacted me with this info about the Makar Bankruptcy. Some of the info about the Bankruptcy has been posted on the UBScandalStuff Facebook page.

Hopefully more to follow, but just a quick update since I mentioned the Twenty1 account, take it for what you want. I asked the person who emailed me, if it was an account that belonged to Lauren or Travis, why it was not just listed with their other named account, but received no response.

did anyone check those names for abnormal win rates Mookman?

Appears the liquidation gets settled today:

http://www.wsbg.com/liquidation/Moti...settlement.pdf

http://www.wsbg.com/liquidation/Moti...y_5,_2011).pdf

I've been working the document for information and came across a name which I seem to remember but can't remember why. It is a company called Momentum Technologies, Inc. Does anybody remember how they fit into the poker world?

A couple notes on the new documents (if you haven't followed the case, a lot of this won't be very clear)

Jason Dehaan is included by name when the Excapsa Group is delineated. Dehaan seemed to be far from the situation and has not responded to requests for an interview. He is an IT guy for the City of Chicago who back in the day was the CTO for ieLogic when they first put UB together. I would guess he holds one of the larger trusts.

Some new company names emerged. Buena Vida Jupiter BVI is listed as the domain registrant for UB/AP affiliate chipleader.com. Chessington Enterprises is unknown though the town of Chessington is very close to the birthplace of David Uliott an early shareholder. Momentum Technologies. Another previously unknown name included is Jonathan Moss though no info is presented on who/why.

The payout in case of sale over the next 2 years is very low; the company would need to be taken out for a billion dollars in order for the Excapsa shares to recover the promissory value.

Avoine is clearly painted as the controlling interest and seperated from the "Blanca Group". Find out who controls Avoine and you probably know who calls the shots at Cereus.

Norton claimed to own Absolute Entertainment, Inc. S.A prior to Aug 2006. Doesn't seem logical though AP did get started with Sixnet and evolved towards the Kahnawake. Its possible Norton (and perhaps Mohawk compatriots like Art & Jerry Montour, Ken Hill, et al) muscled in back then.

Hi just wanted to point out that chessington is nowhere near the birthplace of dave uliott.Chessington is just outside london in the royal borough of kingston upon thames,
devil fish was born in kingston upon hull ( about 160 miles apart)

Thanks for that info. Know of any other poker related entities which could account for the company name?

no problem, glad i could help,as for chessington all i can tell you is that it is a theme park.

this is a great link for info on Madeira Fjord AS, the Norwegian company that is fingered by Ron Janusz as being the long-term debt holder:

Madeira Fjord As

Incorporated Jan 22/07 - initial directors are Jacob Sverdrup Bjønness-Jacobsen and Lars Jorstad Francke - from my quick research they are both lawyers with Chambers Partners law firm. Actually incorporated under a different name looks like it was a shelf company

Aug 10/07 - changes name

Aug 23/07 - change of control - 2 Norwegian lawyers remain as directors but Ronald Robert Janusz of Chicago (full address in website) becomes Chairman

Oct 17/07 - change of control Chuljae Lee added as director and Jeremy John Willets added as Deputy Chair (other directors remain in position)

Apr 8/08 - Change of control - Kim Patricia Pusey added as director, Lee and Francke now deputies. Willets and Bjoness-Jacobsen no longer listed

Oct 21/08 - change of control but directors are the same as before

Jan 14/09 - change of control. Yann Kiril Fralin replaces Francke as deputy

I think Elevengrover has done a good job explaining the Norton Document.
He blogs about it here: Where To From Here Part 4 – The Fountain Scene

I think a couple of things are interesting, as EG pointed out in his blog.
For one, Norton claims:

In this thread is the list of cheating accounts, and even the names UB had attached to them. The given names on the accounts do not seem to be individuals that held senior positions at Excapsa. So How can Norton and UB make this link? Why was this not shared sooner when the list was sent out?

It appears those old posts about the AP investors getting screwed out of about $250 Million seem to be accurate. AS EG pointed out, Why didn't Joe Norton mention the AP cheating?

I would also like to know about the 2005 cheating incident, likely Jeremy Day's incident. Norton claims Leggett found out that Excapsa's Management team discovered and covered up the cheating in 2005. Who was part of this management and who all knew about it and allowed it to be covered up? How did Leggett just discover it in Aug of 2010, when stories were around in 2007. It also appears EG mentioned this as well.

So much shadiness going on here.

These are more names that have been overdue to come out. Janusz is an old buddy of Hilt Sr.'s, and Chuljae "C.J." is one of the two principals that operate the software firm Panoratech in South Korea. Madeira is where all the non-principal shareholders are housed, and there are over 200. Looks like their stock is edging toward worthless. More on all this when I return from my hiatus.

By the way, the seven official owners of Avoine are alleged to me to be the frat boys (less Scott Tom, who is believed to have an inviolate "consultancy" agreement these days), Hilt Sr., Phil Tom and a couple of others.

Good dig on the link, kerze.

Great stuff, maybe we can get this back on the front burner.

One correction to my Madeira Fjord post. The two Norwegian lawyers who were initial directors aren't with Chambers and Partners . Chambers and Partners isn't a law firm - it is a publisher of directories of law firms. The actual law firm they are with is Advokatfirmaet Grette DA

Is Norton threatening to release any scandal info he has in 39?

"39. I have sought direction from the Liquidator regarding the treatment of the Excapsa Collateral. In absence of an acceptable alternative, I intend to wind up the business."