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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
Sage, I entirely understand why A-high in that pot is a call. It is an extraordinarily weak criticism, however, to argue that Cate should have called it FASTER; indeed, she actually made a correct decision. I thought Dentale's comment at that point was a poor attempt to tilt her -- or perhaps to rationalize away another spot where he lost close to the maximum.
I agree that he was basically trying to tilt her, but incidentally he was also correct that she took a while, more than most would to call.
I do believe though, based on what I have seen, that she is a particularly slow thinker, certainly in maths based disciplines. If reports are correct she took 10 minutes to make her decision in the infamous AT hand with Barry Hutter. That is an extraordinary amount of time to think about a decision in a pre flop situation.
If it's a river decision then fine, in some spots you could justify 10 minutes, possibly even more (if allowed to) because there are so many more pemutaions by street etc that you could process, but 10 minutes pre flop; this is either a person with quite a slow mind or someone a bit unsure of the basics of pre flop play, perhaps a bit of both.
I would not totally rule out that she is currently a complete rookie, and that by knowing only half of what the very top players know, it makes her difficult to play against. This isn't some fancy theory, it can easily happen. Some of my worst (most annoying bust outs) of live comps are where the opponent did something that was so weird because they were novicey, that I ruled out what they had done as being at all possible and then made a losing play against them.
Apologies for calling you clueless.
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Originally Posted by Tutejszy
lol, nobody sane ever snaps obvious bluffs from fish, if you snap them they may realise it's not a good spot to bluff
I agree it may have been for that reason that she delayed deliberately, or perhaps she'd been advised to take her time on all decisions to prevent making errors and as you say to not give timing tells away or any other timing based indicators away.
It's factual that she was being given info on her phone (within the rules), but I kind of get the impression (and it is my instinct only) that she is being kind of puppeted, if that's a word!, so being given masses of ongoing advice from others for many/most of her games. She is always talking about getting advice, learning from this player and that player. This is not quite normal because most people pick up and learn 80% of the game by themselves and get 20% from advice and friends, she appears to be the other way around.
I still believe she is pretty slow of thought though. I might be wrong about this as well as about a lot of things.
Now I really should shut up and get off this thread. The lawyer stuff is quite boring but probably I should have kept my mouth shut about it. Sorry.
Last edited by SageDonkey; 03-27-2017 at 11:12 PM.