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What the hell are VODS?

video on demand

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If you are an online grinder and that is what you took away from watching someone make $30k for a few hours of play in an extremely low variance spot, then you missed the point.

LOL

Lets see if they are even around in 5 years

Umm, Dentale has been around since at least 2008.... Cate popped in around 24 months ago, but yea, we will see

Also, Ill take next Cate, especially if Glantz is putting up the 30k for me. I can meet you down Sugar House 2day if you wants, gotta be there for the drawing anyways.

I think Cate Hall realized right away that the way to beat Mike Dentale was to just let him make mistakes. So she didn't need take that many chances or be overly creative, just wait for good hands and hope to get paid off. It wasn't exciting poker, but it was probably the correct strategy in that situation.

Thought Polk and Deeb were very good in the booth, although at times Doug went a little overboard with the strat talk. I didn't mind it because I'm a geek for that sort of thing, but I can see where it might turn some more casual viewers off.

Cate wouldn't beat 50NL on Stars, Mike wouldn't beat 5NL

Was she at Kellogg Huber? That really is one of the most prestigious boutiques out there, agreed $500k would be well within reach in a good-billing/high-performing year. This both proves that (I) she must be wicked smart, as that's a very tough gig to land and (ii) she can't be that smart (or really hated law) because she should expect to take a very significant pay cut I the long run playing poker.

Pretty much everyone I know who is a DC Big Law lawyer hates or hated their job and burned out.

I can fly from finland to US if I get a match vs Hall. : --- D I'm already simming scenarios how to make this happen. Making twitter and posting trump stuff seems pretty GTO from what I can tell.

Agree about Doug and Deeb being entertaining. I despise Deeb in general, but quite enjoy his commentary. Liked when he commentated on those SCOOP and WCOOP replays.

given that big law is 8 years as an associate -> partner or out, if she didn't like her chances, the opportunity cost for quitting isn't actually close to 500k/yr.

given the money was put up for them and they were freerolling, this was all basically just a well hyped and marketed show where they're just playing their parts. you kinda have to feel like a sucker for having sweated this as a real grudge match. only redeeming part was the commentary imo. dunno why people were telling them to stfu while MD was talking, as if you'd rather listen to MD talk about poker (or anything) than DP.

Anyone doing well at Kellogg Huber is going to have great exit opportunities even if they don't make partner. That said, perfectly sensible to think for some people the life EV of being a lawyer is less than being a poker player, even if you'd expect to make more money being a lawyer.

She was at Kellogg and I have zero doubt that 500k is an entirely realistic income number for her the last year she was there. That and Wachtell are two of the hardest law jobs to get anywhere in the country.

Was the money actually put up for them? Something Dentale tweeted or said suggested so, but is that confirmed? Sort of lame if so. I won my prop bet on this and of course now wish I'd bet far more.

I'd maybe add Boies to that list, but yes. She must have been one of the top law students in the country coming out of school. I did very well in law school and wouldn't have had a shot at Kellogg, as I didn't clerk (not that I wanted to litigate anyway).

Do you think over 10,000 people watched in order to see strategy conversations between Deeb and Polk?

Take Deeb and Polk commenting on two randoms playing heads up, and see how many live Twitch views it gets. It will be a tiny fraction.

We wanted them to shut up so we could hear the contentious table talk between the two obnoxious players who hate one another.

The absolute worst was when Deeb and Polk decided to talk about their prop bets immediately when the match was over, and we couldn't hear Dentale and Hall's immediate postgame match conversation. Talk about a complete lack of awareness of why everyone's watching!

Deeb and Polk are great at analyzing strategy and even can hold interesting conversation with one another, but they just didn't know when to keep their mouths shut.

lack of self awareness seems to be common

Let's remember that either commentator could draw in a larger crowd alone, than both of the people playing in this match.

So yeah, I think more than 5000 people turned in just to hear them talk strat. Myself included. I wasn't there to watch the douche whale vs female liberal tournament pro.

Plus, Cate wasn't even talking during the match. Dentale kept trying, but she wouldn't engage. She wouldn't even answer how she prefers to be addressed, Cate vs Caitlyn.

Also, match was pretty bad. Dentale can talk trash, but can't play cards. HU or full ring, since he clowned around in the PNIA cash game too.

If you can't tell yet, Doug Polk loooooooooooovvveess to talk. He seems like the kind of person who thinks everything he says is brilliantly profound and insightful. That whatever he just thought up and is about to say needs to be heard RIGHT NOW. He speaks complete and absolute truths and if you don't agree with him then you are just like, not on his level. Let's just say "humility" is the last word I would use to describe him in any context

lol @people comparing ev's of job at lawfirm vs poker

if she really made 500k it's not even gonna be remotely close lol

it's not the point anyway. for some people, money is not everything and they are satisfied with an income/net worth above a certain level

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90% of us wanted to hear the contentious table talk between Mike and Cate plus hate.

I was screaming for Polk and Dweeb to shut the **** up.

Also why they didn't interview Cate Hall after the match is epic fail.

She hung around the table for a half hour after the match, and they couldn't interview her ?

Polk and Dweeb lack self awareness, big time.

Come on, you're joking, right?

This match got the huge live audience it did because of the intrigue of the grudge match between two opposite (and obnoxious) personalities.

As I said, put Polk and Deeb commentating on a heads up match between two good players with ordinary personalities, and they don't get anywhere near this kind of viewership.

You're correct in your assessment of the match. Dentale sucked at the heads up pokers, while Cate was good at poker but quiet and boring. I agree this made Polk and Deeb's job harder, but at the same time, they needed to STFU when we got the few table talk nuggets that we did.

At the beginning, they promised to go quiet when Hall and Dentale talked, but then abandoned that promise as the match wore on, finally resulting in the head-scratching decision to talk over the postgame banter right when Dentale busted.

Regarding the lack of interviews, I was pretty surprised about that, myself.

Clearly there were some mistakes on the production end, but this was new territory for Poker Night in America, so hopefully these are just growing pains and we will see those issues corrected next time. Matt Glantz already said they will disallow cell phone usage in the next grudge match, regardless of who is featured.

100% my thought process. Seemed like a pompous little prick. Not a fan. Loved Sean though