I was banned by CDS yesterday.

He is a DICK and should not be allowed to have such pull at a poker site. I really hope this ban gets lifted.


MORE IMPORTANTLY

heliga_ak = cds.

I sent ongame a mail regarding this and it's been a month wiith no reply. This is 3rd party information, but I think from the person I heard from (who I trust immensly) it is true.

What is bad about this?

He plays at the same time under two names opening 24 tables. The rest of us can only open 12. So he gets more fishes. He only sits with fishes in the 3handed tables.

Also, I have seen him sit with both names 3 handed. One name sits out while the other plays. Essentially giving him the fish heads up for himself.

I have seen on two occasions in the last 2 months where he is playing 4 handed with both names. I dont have to say what kind of edge this is.

Ongame support is ridiculous and it is a known fact he has an insider there. This is absurd for a poker site.

wow, if true then this is really awful

Glad someone else is annoyed about his behavior too! It's a joke. And as poker12 says I have pretty big suspicions that heliga_ak and CDS are the same person. I have witnessed the same events. I don't want to go around making false accusations about something as serious as multi-accounting, but the evidence is there. Also, since he seems to have the power to make my IP address the same as his (I assume that's how it's done?) I don't see why he can't have the power to have 2 accounts on the same computer.

I have E-mailed ombudsman@ongamenetwork.com about this whole situation, but I have received no reply. This was over 2 weeks ago.

I of course hope that they are different people, but I expect ongame to do a full investigation. And as for having TheBalcony and myself blocked from his tables, that's ridiculous, and is a clear abuse of power of someone at ongame. I hope everyone here at twoplustwo gives their support towards this matter as this type of behavior is harmful for online poker and affects us all.

Um, what?

Anyway, on a dif matter, i really don't see what the basis is for everyrone complaining about him "only" playing fish. OMG, he practices game selection , STOP HIM!!!!! I only sit at fishy tables too, so what?

As far as CDS = Heliga, on the other hand, that is obviously completely unacceptable if he's sitting at the same table with himself. The Ongame 'ombudsman' posts here occasionally, hopefully he'll chime in on this thread.

I knew he was a jerk, but this is some outrageous information. I play at Bestpoker my self. Now I dunno why

p.s. is there a way in PT2 (or HEM, but i'd prefer PT2) to see the HHs for hands where two players have played each other? e.g. i can see in the 'won from/lost to' column that players X and Y have DEF won/lost pots to each other, but what's the easiest way for me to actually view those HHs...i can't seem to figure it out.

I have sent an email to the CEO of Bestpoker to see what he has to say about the case.

I use PT3. Guess this dosent help you alot, but it works fine there and its a easy system. Havent used PT2, so :s

I was speculating to how he manages to block me from the tables he's sat at (and I have a feeling he can't sit if I'm sitting). Through the method that I believe he is using, I figured that he could also make it possible for him to multi-account and sit in with 2 different names on one table. So he would get his contacts at ongame to make it seem like the 2 accounts have different IP addresses. It is pure specualtion, but it if he can mess about with my account then it seems very possible that he can mess about with his own allowing him to multi-account. I don't really know how else to explain it.


you think it's fine that he's allowed to block people from playing at the same table as him?



I hope so too! I e-mailed him, but got no reply.

RedEye_, Ongame blocked you from his tables, it has nothing to do about your IP or anything like that.

bump - if someone can explain to me how to do the above in PT2, i'll be able to add something to this thread.

as i said it was just speculation, but considering they didn't have a legitimate reason to block me it all seems sketchy. Also, since he can't sit with me (I think) that adds credence to my theory. But even if ongame did block me from playing with him, they will still have the power to let him have 2 accounts.

I'll repeat this, it's just speculation from me, I do not claim to know what is going on, but it really seems like someone from ongame is abusing their power. I would like to know what is happening, but as I said I have received no reply. If ongame had a legit reason to block me I imagine I would receive one.

What makes you say this anyway?

for all guys who don´t know it yet!

CDS is an admin at bestpoker and is able to switch several things. you can also see when hes logging in with his account!

what? bombshell?

What do u mean by "admin"...that he WORKS for bestpoker, or that he's simply somehow been granted admin access (akin perhaps to red pro's at full tilt who have certain abilities normal players do not).

What do u mean 'when he's logging in with his acct'? your post, as written, makes very little sense altho i suspect is v important.

lol.

Wow, if true this is sick.

I believe that Ongame and probably all the other networks too, simply have a mechanism to block players from the same table. This might be automatic, triggered e.g when 2 accounts have been sighted from the same IP, or having the same email, address etc. It would most likely also be operable manually, so that the network or a skin may easily make these ecxlusions when needed. Eg. when players have been accused of collusion, but not enough evidence has been found, a site might want to just block them from sharing tables. Or when someone opens an account for oneself and a spouse, and asks if this is ok. Most sites tell it's ok, and just make a note, and/or block these accounts from sharing tables. It really looks like this Carl person has had access to this feature, either by himself or by someone inside the skin.

It is also possible to sit at the same table with 2 accounts, although usually not from a shared IP. However, it is possible to set up a computer with 2 IPs, and operate the accounts with a shared mouse and keyboard. I don't think we should go into details here.

lol wtf, ongame always felt kinda shady but wtf is going on

Will be interesting to see an answer from OnGame.

Only way to let Ongame feel it is by not playing there anymore so they don't get your rake anymore.

I have some information from a Bestpoker employee. The block was made by Ongame but quickly lifted when said employee contacted them yesterday and asked why. He had no idea about this and is not just a random support guy at Bestpoker.

Most likley, CDS has a contact inside Bestpoker that talked to Ongame about blocking certain players. I have no idea what he told Ongame to justify this but its not very hard to figure out a number of different lies or whatever to make Ongame go trough with such a thing.

thanks for the info jukep, good post.

So I'm no longer blocked from his tables? I am still blocked from heliga_ak's tables btw.

I will look through PT too, to see if I have played Heliga and CDS at the same time...

This is just too sick if this is true...

as i've said, i 100% have HHs with them both playing in the same hand.
all i need is for someone to tell me how, in PT2, i can identify those hands without combing through them manually.

(i also have HEM if it's easier in that)

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