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Antigua tries again to get paid from US (WTO online gaming ruling) Antigua tries again to get paid from US (WTO online gaming ruling)

02-20-2012 , 08:31 PM
Antigua has decided to take up the issue of online gambling again with the WTO. The statement was released 5 days ago and only 2 websites(through google news) that deal mainly in gambling have covered this issue. There are no articles on cardplayer, bluff(lol i know), etc. This should not only be reported because it is definitely news that could affect US poker players in terms of more competition, lower rakes, and pretty much everything else players want, but also could very much benefit your websites. The free market affiliate system is a 1000x better than the US regulated will be, if there is one at all(PM Prospace).

Obviously the WTO will rule in Antigua's favor and we need people to know about it. If its big news in the poker world, it will be small news compared to everything else, but it will still be news nonetheless. Not much is likely to come of this, but any small win would be beneficial to anyone involved in poker. If it gets enough coverage and outrage, other countries that depend on Igaming revenue like Costa Rica, Malta, and Sechelles could make the same case. With quotes like these, we can make anyone who reads the article realize how much damage the US has done to their country, whether they agree with online gambling or not:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/26/technology/26gamble.html

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2004
two years ago the nation, which has a population of less than 100,000, had 119 online casinos with 5,000 employees. Today, he said, its 30 operations have about 1,000 employees.
Thank you to these websites:
http://www.casinoadvisor.com/online-gambling-news-from-regulatory-authorities-news-item.html
http://www.online-casinos.com/news/news2011203.asp
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02-20-2012 , 09:40 PM
Would like to hear someone with more knowledge than me chime in on if this could be big at all.
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02-20-2012 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RBPRO87
Would like to hear someone with more knowledge than me chime in on if this could be big at all.
That should be the tag line of NVG
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02-21-2012 , 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sba9630
WTO Fight Continues [Antigua Observer]
ST JOHN’S, Antigua – Antigua & Barbuda is gearing up for another World Trade Organisation (WTO) fight with the United States on Internet gaming, eight years after the dispute settlement body ruled in this country’s favour. ...
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02-21-2012 , 07:15 AM
no money in antigua US govt is solid
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02-21-2012 , 07:31 AM
There was a lot of media on this over the weekend, I saw some here

http://gaming-awards.com/NEWS/articl...fighting-again

It is typical of the US to ignore the WTO when they want and then fight at the WTO when they want something, usually over China.
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02-21-2012 , 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
no money in antigua US govt is sold
fyp
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02-21-2012 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
no money in antigua US govt is sold
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Originally Posted by CALLMECAESAR
fyp
Empires gonna Empire
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02-21-2012 , 11:50 AM
US didn't care last time - they won't care this time.
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02-21-2012 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MinusEV
US didn't care last time - they won't care this time.
This.
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02-21-2012 , 01:34 PM
clips?
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02-21-2012 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by foldacedeuce
There was a lot of media on this over the weekend, I saw some here

http://gaming-awards.com/NEWS/articl...fighting-again

It is typical of the US to ignore the WTO when they want and then fight at the WTO when they want something, usually over China.
this
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02-21-2012 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by zomg
That should be the tag line of NVG

I laughed out loud .
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02-21-2012 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by foldacedeuce
It is typical of the US to ignore any international body or other nation when they want and then fight when they want something, usually over China.
FYP
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02-21-2012 , 08:12 PM
if this got big in the media the US cant ignore it
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02-21-2012 , 11:07 PM
I wrote about a ton of WTO/Antigua rulings from the past. Most of the info i posted was in April 15-March 15th last year.

Not a whole lot happened, but antigua was challenging free-trade agreements. will post some links below.

Further, even when conferences were behing held right after BF there was almost no coverage. Most the new articles were form like micro-caribbean news outlets, or caribbean-new-radio with a webpage. I eventually stopped searching for this info as it was so hard to find.

but yea like others said. No money in WTO/Antigua... US solid.
Plus this WTO can only rule **** like Antigua can impose $X worth of penalties.
Ie bootleg/pirate American music dvds = the the damges caused by the US on Antigua.
Lulz
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02-21-2012 , 11:18 PM
WTO thread from after black friday.

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Originally Posted by RBPRO87
Would like to hear someone with more knowledge than me chime in on if this could be big at all.
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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
no money in antigua US govt is solid Correct
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Originally Posted by foldacedeuce
There was a lot of media on this over the weekend, I saw some here
http://gaming-awards.com/NEWS/articl...fighting-again
It is typical of the US to ignore the WTO when they want and then fight at the WTO when they want something, usually over China.

Correct, Also for refference, and you can see from other WTO thread. Antigua won a 21,000,000 (mill) ruling on gambling issues and US encroachment. Antigua never accepted it as they were seeking 3.4Billion... this is not a closed case and its pretty much +ev they never accepted the 21Mill ruling... though its also not active as far as i know..
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Originally Posted by MinusEV
US didn't care last time - they won't care this time

Maybe if they want to use the WTO anytime soon they might be apt to act accordingly on this. Im not sure of the value of organizations like the WTO with our current administration, but things change all the time..
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Originally Posted by Mattraq1
if this got big in the media the US cant ignore it

It wont and cant get "big"... just not enough people are going to care. Even if you got like every single person who read this thread to care, and then they told 5 other people, it wouldnt matter. Its just back page political mumbo-jumbo[

And i know you mean other ways like if media picks it up, but keep in mind Antigua is like 1/8th the size Rhode Island with 1/10th the population of Alaska


wto thread from after black friday
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...ap-ub-1028647/

Last edited by boohaa12; 02-21-2012 at 11:26 PM.
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02-22-2012 , 02:27 AM
lol @ US lolgovernment being solid
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02-22-2012 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mattraq1
if this got big in the media the US cant ignore it
Except most Americans love it when their government show those damn foreigners that they don't care what they think - It'd probably give Obama a boost in the polls if this got out

Spoiler:
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02-22-2012 , 10:21 AM
The WTO has no real strength. The US does not really care about the WTO and certainly does not care about Antigua.
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02-22-2012 , 03:59 PM
Have we not learned from Kittens?

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Originally Posted by jmurjeff
The WTO has no real strength. The US does not really care about any international body and certainly does not care about any nation but themselves.
fyp
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02-22-2012 , 04:06 PM
pokernews just posted an article about this:

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2012/0...ming-12080.htm

Quote:
On Wednesday, the Atlantis Internet Group Corp. (ATIG), a Nevada-based gaming innovator, announced the launch of the first form of legal Intranet gaming within the United States. The news was the result of a signed agreement between the Coushatta Indian Casino in Louisiana and the Coyote Valley Casino in California, two of the tribal casinos in the company’s Tribal Gaming Network.
on their site, there are mostly gambling clients to download but, there is something called TGNpoker:

http://www.atlantisinternetgroup.com/games.htm

any info. on tgn?
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02-22-2012 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CheckRaise_
pokernews just posted an article about this:

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2012/0...ming-12080.htm



on their site, there are mostly gambling clients to download but, there is something called TGNpoker:

http://www.atlantisinternetgroup.com/games.htm

any info. on tgn?
I just opened it and made an account. So far I see 10 people playing on play money tables, 5 or so gold chip sngs (real money I think they use gold chips for sngs and mtts) not sure how much a gold chip is worth. I hvae no way to deposit atm. There are no cash games at all. And they are lying at the bottom saying there are 2600 players online that's about it so far. I don't see any freerolls to play so I am kind of confused how people are getting money or gold chips to play with.

edit: gold chips seem to be vip rewards like on Cake but I can find no real money games on anything so not sure how people are even getting gold chips to play with.
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02-22-2012 , 06:14 PM
actually, tgm is litterally just a new cake skin, there the exact same software and you can't have both cake and this new tgmpoker open at the same timetime
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