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Old 11-21-2008, 12:56 AM   #1
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Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

Many of you who play the tournament circuit know Steve Hall.

He is the English guy with the nice camera that takes photos of all the final tables at the Bellagio and is often at Caesars as well for their higher buyin events.

His living is derived from people going to his site to view pictures, and he often sells very high quality photos to players from the final table.

His site Pokerfolio.com had a listing of hundreds of photos with various categories along with a Poker gossip section.

A few months ago, he decided to switch from his hosting site to GoDaddy.com.

During the switchover, apparently Duth Boyd squatted on the name during the time that it was being moved.

Steve's livelihood and all his pictures now are relegated to another site name that is not getting nearly as many hits as before, and Dutch Boyd is receiving all the traffic from the Pokerfolio.com website.

Can the poker playing public please put some pressure on Dutch to give Steve his website and livelihood back?
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Old 11-21-2008, 01:06 AM   #2
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Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

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A few months ago, he decided to switch from his hosting site to GoDaddy.com.

During the switchover, apparently Duth Boyd squatted on the name during the time that it was being moved.
Uh, wat?

I don't know the story here (and maybe there is just some epic loophole in domain name registry and ownership that I'm unaware of) but how could this possibly happen unless he was irresponsible and let his domain lapse past the reup grace period?

If you seriously derive your livelihood from one site, there is absolutely no reason to not have that domain on a 10 year registry...
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Old 11-21-2008, 01:14 AM   #3
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Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

Dutch also has his own personal website and if you google his name I am sure it will come up.

Dutch states his view in a blog about this. You may want to read it. It is written very well and also is very informative.
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Old 11-21-2008, 01:19 AM   #4
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Dutch also has his own personal website and if you google his name I am sure it will come up.

Dutch states his view in a blog about this. You may want to read it. It is written very well and also is very informative.
Can you link his response or cut and paste it here>
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Old 11-21-2008, 01:22 AM   #5
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Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

Wow, that really sucks for Steve. Hopefully they can work this out without some crazy legal battle.
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Old 11-21-2008, 01:27 AM   #6
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Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

A funny thing happened to me today. I got a call from my mother who said I got a big package in the mail from an attorney out in Chicago, which she opened (gotta love moms . It turned out to be a UDRP complaint from PokerHost.com.

You can visit PokerHost.net and read the rest of the story and my battle to keep Poker Host Inc. from reverse hijacking my domain. If you want to help me out and protect the rights of domain owners against lame companies like PokerHost.com, you can help me out by posting a link to PokerHost.net

Dutch being the intelligent individual he is bought alot of domain names. Now people are coming after him for them. I saw 3 instances where people want a name he has registered. There his.......This is just a part of a story to give you an idea....
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Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

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A funny thing happened to me today. I got a call from my mother who said I got a big package in the mail from an attorney out in Chicago, which she opened (gotta love moms . It turned out to be a UDRP complaint from PokerHost.com.

You can visit PokerHost.net and read the rest of the story and my battle to keep Poker Host Inc. from reverse hijacking my domain. If you want to help me out and protect the rights of domain owners against lame companies like PokerHost.com, you can help me out by posting a link to PokerHost.net

Dutch being the intelligent individual he is bought alot of domain names. Now people are coming after him for them. I saw 3 instances where people want a name he has registered. There his.......This is just a part of a story to give you an idea....

This is a different situation. Steve was running his business from Pokerfolio.com and Dutch somehow got the name while he was switching hosts for the site.
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Old 11-21-2008, 01:39 AM   #8
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Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

Once a domain name is registered in cannot be used again. It looks like who ever can prove they registered it first, will get it. This should be easy since you have to pay for the Domain name at the time you request it.
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Old 11-21-2008, 09:00 AM   #9
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Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

A comment from Scott Hall (as foiledcoup) back in October at Pokerati.com:

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Dutch Boyd is complaining about someone using his pokerhost name.
Anyway thanks for the shout out. Spruz isn’t the most memorable
name to add to my site name.
I guess the lesson is don’t let your domain name expire especially
if you intention was just to take a post WSOP break then return.
A certain poker radio show asked Dutch in an interview to give back his domain, Dutch said that he would, guess he's kept forgetting or something.

Last edited by Kevmath; 11-21-2008 at 01:55 PM. Reason: added location where comment was posted
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Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

The pokerfolio.com site means nothing in the grand scheme of things to Dutch but was another mans prime source of income.
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Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

Can someone explain the nuts and bolts of what happened?

Did Dutch exploit some angle and 'steal' this guys domain name, or was this guy an absolutely epic bonehead and let the domain name that was attached to his livelihood lapse and Dutch wound up snagging it?

If it's the former, I'd be very interested in learning what happened and how it was done (as an owner of a few domains). If it's the latter, sorry, 0 sympathy. That's how the game is played. You just cannot let critical domains lapse.
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Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

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Once a domain name is registered in cannot be used again. It looks like who ever can prove they registered it first, will get it. This should be easy since you have to pay for the Domain name at the time you request it.
That is incorrect. If you fail to renew the domain it can be purchased by anyone.

edit** I guess there is a slight chance that under US Trademark laws that if the domain is the same name as the business and is very well known he could get it back, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

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A comment from Scott Hall (as foiledcoup) back in October:

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A certain poker radio show asked Dutch in an interview to give back his domain, Dutch said that he would, guess he's kept forgetting or something.
Odd, I get "Sorry - no matches" when I search for posts by foiledcoup.

But if, as he reportedly said, he let it expire: tough luck. If I let a domain expire I can't get it back because I say it was a mistake. If it's worth more to Hall than Boyd, they should settle on a price.
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Old 11-21-2008, 02:17 PM   #14
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Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

Domain industry blog covering the story.

http://domainnamewire.com/2008/11/21...fudging-dates/
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Old 11-21-2008, 02:21 PM   #15
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Re: Can Someone get back Steve Hall's Pokerfolio.com site from Dutch Boyd

The above story has nothing to do with Pokerfolio.com, that's Dutch and Pokerhost going after each other over his registering of Pokerhost.net
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