Its not mean, it's dumb. Only one step from teaching them how to play.

I find the term extremely insulting.

It's a known fact that people who use the term 'fish' or 'donkey' to describe other people are failures at life. Not mean, just ignorant.

golden rule

One day you will evolve from fish to donkey... and then maybe to **** sapien. But right now you're still just a ****ing fish!

shirt would be the nuts if phil ivey was after the shark!

Very well put.

I also agree with OP, in not liking the use of the terms.
The players that do, are usually very poor themselves, and in need of an ego boost.

fwiw I hate seeing "brah" in any context. Makes me think of Dog the Bounty Hunter and tilts the **** out of me.

anyone who thinks of these as racial slurs is an idiot. get a freaking life. "."Oooooo in baseball they called that guy a rookie, how mean" Instead of worrying about **** like this why don't you read a book on poker, I recomend "Poker For Idiot's"

It's funny how it's fishy but donkeyish

That's a really bad analogy. I mean, like, world class bad.

Dont berate the fish ldo...
Most stupid thing to do is to say bad player that he is bad.
We want them to be bad,ducy!!!

I generally berate the better players, when i am in a berating kinda of mood. Prefer it if they think i don't understand a play they made or if they feel I have the wrong inmpression of them. You know, meta game and all.

Also, sometimes it's just fun cuz you knows they gonna blow up n stuff.

pussies ITT. of course it's mean, but there is nothing wrong with that. putting people on tilt is a skill.

Yes, I was playing on Stars the other day.....

Someone called me a fish and I cried uncontrollably for 25 minutes before I eventually recovered.

DAMN RACISTS

he lost 1.3million at 200/400 and 500/100 over 8500 hands. PTR has 190k of his hands tracked and almost all are 10/20+ and over those hands(the -1.3million loss included) he has 3.36ptbb/100 which is sick.

I aggree with OP. At the very least it's de-humanizing and elitist. Furthermore, it's counterproductive. If you've got a villain pegged as a "fish", you may not see it when he manages to pull a move on you and rakes a pot. "He just got lucky" you'll smugly tell yourself. And who's really the tool?

I think this attitude is more of an online thing. Online, they're just pictures on a screen, little avatars, so it's easy to think of them in such condescending terms.

Live, you wouldn't do that, because when you think in those terms, your demeanor shines through. People generally know when you've got a low opinion of them and they'll adjust accordingly.

I always chuckle when reading in the strat forums and the douchebag writing the post says "Donkey1 in SB" "Donkey2 in MP", then they go on to describe a hand where the "Donkey"'s played fine and they themselves made these stupid ignorant moves that of course didn't work, and now they're posting asking why.

Here's a few shining examples:
Example 1

Example 2

Yup I think its crazy when people are fish and other people call them out (live or online).

If there are fish at the table you shouldn't TELL them, you should try to make sure they enjoy the game and come back.

Hijack -- saw Dog the Bounty Hunter for the very first time over the weekend. I kept seeing Eric Cartman everytime Dog would say 'brah' or 'go with Christ'. Odd show.

lol

THIS.

People just make NVG threads for the sake of it

fyp

Do you get offended at rap music? Because I think it's more analogous to black rappers calling each other the N word, personally.

i love donkeys