Bumhunting is a basic freedom that many players practice in online poker. Freedom is enjoyed by millions of people around the world. And I enjoy my freedom and would die trying to maintain it!


The push to eliminate bumhunting is an enfringement upon everyones personal freedoms.

When you try to eliminate bumhunting, the reason you are doing so need to made very clear.... You are trying to fatten your own pockets! And doing it by eliminating the freedom of heads up game selection of others.

Poker is not a one man's show. We do not live in a totalitarian society, such as those who lived under Stalin and Hitler. You cannot control every aspect of poker players behaviors...get off your high horse...everyone is entitled to profit from poker(if they can); not just the best of the best.

Ring games players and others; I understand the frustration. You see all this money to be made and nobody will play you for it. That is their right. It is also their right to only play players they can beat. The better poker players does not have a golden throw where money should be thrown at their feet.

All people should have the freedom to profit in poker. Not only those at the top of game.

Hitler and Stalin runned society the same way you are trying to control the poker system....by excercising absolute and total control of every aspect of life(poker).

I enjoy living in a free country and don't take my freedom for granted. That is why when someone wants to impose upon that(in any aspect of life); I will fight "tooth and nail" to maintain it.

Think about this in terms of two competiting businesses in the same town; If you try to throw my business(bumhunting) out of town(for no justifiable reason) and succeed. I would burn yours(ring games) to the ground.

Link below for reference to one player(Stalin or Hitler...you decide) plan to dominate control over the poker landscape...

http://www.cardrunners.com/blog/Bryce

It's a game dumbass. Totaliarian rules may apply.

Bumhunter goin' bumhunt.

nvg taking retarded analogies to a whole new level these days

I like limited number of HU tables idea.

Whys the first post gotta make a good point...however, its a game for those who keep it at the table...the game away from the felt is real life...thats where the rules of society apply.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8nmeNcFefI

I'm so glad we're free honey.



Free to do as we tell you.

I don't think limiting the freedom to sit anybody who voluntarily chooses to sit at an open table should be labeled freedom as the original post implies.

I feel people should be free to open sit any level they want, but other players should be free to sit those players as well. If you bar action from taking place on the latter, it's a hard sell to call that freedom.

Just force players that sit first to play anybody that sits them for a minimum number of hands (if they bust their stack then the minimum will be removed if they want to leave). Adjust the minimum amount of hands for a few months until you've found a good balance.

But to say people should have the freedom of choosing who they pick, I think you can make the counter argument that a player should have the freedom of choosing who they pick that happens to be already sitting! As of now, you can pick whoever you want to play, as long as they will also agree to play you. Maybe an action inducing salesmen market will come out of the current system!

haha...pretty good! Point taken...however, you have to fix small problems before they turn into bigger ones...gulf oil disaster pic...2010

No freedom is all encompassing...freedom to chose who you play is freedom..forcing someone to play you is the exact opposite. You are free to try to get them to play, but forcing them is quite the opposite.

Your freedoms cannot impose upon mine; if they do, then I am no longer truly free.

"Your life is the sum result of all the choices you make, both consciously and unconsciously. If you can control the process of choosing, you can take control of all aspects of your life. You can find the freedom that comes from being in charge of yourself. " Robert F. Bennett

My freedom is mine...yours is yours...imposing on mine(for any reason)to benefit yours is taking my freedom of choice(game selection) away.

here is the definition of freedom from merriam-webster...

: the quality or state of being free: as

a : the absence of necessity, coercion, or constraint in choice or action
b : liberation from slavery or restraint or from the power of another : independence
c : the quality or state of being exempt or released usually from something onerous <freedom from care>
d : ease, facility <spoke the language with freedom>
e : the quality of being frank, open, or outspoken <answered with freedom> f : improper familiarity
g : boldness of conception or execution
h : unrestricted use <gave him the freedom of their home>

So I should have the freedom to sit at any table I have enough money for, no? Therefore I should have the freedom to sit at everyone of your tables. You don't have to play me (cause you are a free man) but should you move to a new table I have the freedom to sit at that table and so on and so on.

It's not a bad idea by him, but why doesn't he go to nosebleeds to find action? Oh yea, cuz he doesn't want to play better players

yes of course you do...you also have the freedom to hit and run on me...you have the freedom to steal my blind and leave...I never get mad when any of the above happen...part of the game...however, hit and running is perfectly rational, ethical behavior....table blocking is not. But you are a free man/woman.

Thanks for bringing up that point...hypocritical mindset of those trying restrict our freedoms.

Profitable poker players make money from those worse than them...every player has to right to profit; if they can figure out a method to do so...as long as it is not a violation of that persons personal freedoms.

The 2nd worst poker player in the world has every right to profit in poker...he just has to only play the number 1 worst player in the world. If he can figure out a way; who are we to try and figure out a way where he can longer only play the 1 worst player in the world?