You're literally a drug addict who welched on debts.

Ok, I don't know why this is in nvg but it's idiotic. I will not reply here. Please email me until I get a laptop Monday and then I'll speak via Skype fb etc

Never said I didn't. I'm certainly an enabler and have been a bad friend to countless people. Point out where I said otherwise?

I understand that we went from being friends to you seeing me as literally Hitler -- and that's obv 99.9% my fault -- but man do you go out of your way to bash me on here.

I criticize Ben Barrows for his markup and you go "I bet Ben's package is more +EV than any you've ever sold". Yeah, Thayer, I'm sure that's the case when we are charging the same markup to the same tourneys. I might have overcharged on markup at times -- but at least you can count on me to ****ing show up on time when I'm 3 handed in a live tourney with 250k to 1st.

Your criticism of me is largely warranted, but the degree to which you do it is a bit hyperbolic.

I may be a scumbag, but you are just as much of an embellisher.

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Brandon -- GL with everything.

You don't know why a thread outing a drug addicted thief is in the news portion of a poker forum?

Like... Thayer, you're a great dude. But you turn into Nelson Van Alden whenever I'm involved. At this point I feel you hate me more than Chuck Bass does. Why'd you stay friends with me for so long if you felt this way? Or did things change overnight?

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gl brandon

Stay strong Brandon. You'll get through this.

lol what? You're pathetic man. Nobody gives a **** about what you've been through, nobody gives a **** that you're suicidal, the only thing these people care about is getting their money back. Stop making excuses for what you've done and stop looking for sympathy.

Nobody cares, they just want their money back

Drug usage didn't make you do the things you did. Grow up

Once again, nobody cares what you've been through in the past, they just want their money back and posting all this garbage is just a cry for sympathy and an attempt to justify your scummyness.

Edit: Well obviously some people do give a ****, I am clearly not speaking on behalf of everyone, this is just my opinion

his point was simply that nvg is so far below him that it's not worth his time to interact with those busto idiots

This thread isn't about me, you, or Ben Barrows, this is about Barnes. I was just posting to say that I strongly disagreed with your assessment of the situation as you probably don't know as much about him recently. I also found it funny/sad that you mention his demons when you have played a big part in contributing to them.

It would be better suited in mttc/hsnl so people afftected can see it. Nvg is filled with bad posters who say dumb ****. Yes I amnan addict yes I stole money, no not nearly 5% of ppl I messaged on fb wre scammed or even attempted. Ill address that more later

He himself is a busto idiot though.

Inception.

If you think this is true which I doubt you should consider not posting

Andrew you got his joke! Grats

Not my business, but it's more then enough for me that he would post this soon after the OP went up. It wasn't weeks/months later with some long sob story.

GL, dude!!

This is all u needed to post. I'm done itt but will keep in constant contact

The real joke is you.

You got me. I've def been a bad influence and friend. Perhaps you can find a 3rd way to rephrase it now that I've admitted so twice?

Edited to add: You certainly didnt mind making this thread about me, even in a minor way. But now that I point out your irrational support of Ben Barrows, I'm guilty of taking things off topic?

Like I said, you're right to question my character, I merely have a problem with the degree of your attacks.

I truly don't want to be commended on this, nor do i deserve it but I will make things right and I will keep in contact. I did horrible things for money for drugs and deceieved so many. I'm truly sorry to everyone I hurt and all I can do is stay off oxy etc and figure out my future and get ppl paid

dude,does he owe you money?
If not back off dude...
complete donk gl bro and stay clean

Thayer -- If you wanna go back and forth with me all day and night for the entertainment and cringe-inducement of NVG's many readers, let's go.

You sure you care that much that I'm at times a morally bankrupt jerk? I think we both have a fair amount of "dirt" on one another that wouldn't exactly enhance one another's reputations here. Why don't we leave it at that before I go off?!

Even if you've never stolen a dime, you are a way worse person than Brandon.

You don't tell a suicidal person to kill themselves. I've done it a few times to poker friends and I feel genuinely guilty about it (cue Thayer coming in to tell 2p2 I'm a sociopath with no emotions).

I've felt suicidal myself when I was a closeted virgin at age 24 with dwindling poker skills. It is not a fun place to be at.

feel like I'm missing a ton of gossip here

This might be a point for some discussion, by those who are actually owed money.

Scamming threads really don't belong in NVG, but people like to start them here because it's our busiest forum. Sometimes scams involving famous players or very large scams are allowed to remain here, because that sort of qualifies them as "News". Otherwise, they really belong in the Marketplace/Staking forums, or maybe in the forum where the scam(s) took place, so to speak.

This thread is sort of borderline - it might be OK here, but if a lot of people who are owed money feel it would be more productive to have it in a different forum, speak up.

A drug addict and thief who is in massive debt starts to talk down to the poker community and your problem is with me? kay

Are you serious? Dont put words in my mouth, I never told him to kill himself nor did I imply it. I simply said "nobody cares" that he's suicidal. I would imagine the people that have been victims of Brandon's scams don't care that he did it for drugs, or that he was thinking of killing himself, they just want their money back.

ive seen some bad NVG threads, this is not one of them. when it comes to owing money or situations like this, NVG is fine. when it comes to poker ethics or gray areas NVG is a total nightmare.

GL to everyone who is owed money. i believe brandon has every intention of trying to pay people back, but I have friends who suffer similar addictions and any relapse is a nightmare. if you are friends with him take it upon yourself to try and keep him clean.