This gets into murky legal waters pretty quickly.

Ah k. Wasnt aware of that. Besides, probably not much of a demand anyway. Just saying it would be a nice option for people like me who do lots of trades in the 1k-4k range, and definitely something id pay for.

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Furthermore -- in response to bbbbb33's post -- feel free to criticize me for seeking a profitable prop bet. I'm a gambler. This is a gambling forum.

Might I have chosen the wrong time & place to propose one? Certainly.

Was it intended to carry a certain degree of sarcasm or lightheartedness? Yes. My bad for improperly conveying my tone or trying to exploit anyone. I just wanted to give what I thought was a meaningful take on things. Vilify me (one L, thanks Bobo!) if you so wish.

First of all thanks for alot of input right now and a few of you guys posting added me via skype and i created a group to collect all details on it.

For me its currently a very nasty situation since i have to pay my rent and other bills since over 3 days now and might get into trouble with that.

Really would like to get into contact with Brandon and find a solution on it , or see brandon post here.

In the moment i feel totally lost myself and had 2 emotional days behind me and still hanging around without any clue on how to continue with that situation.

skype: warloeckchen1 group still running.

I have made more than enough at poker. At least enough to support myself without stealing from others.

What makes your word worth more than mine? That you post more on this forum? lol

You will never see me making excuses for scammers

lol, just stop...no one cares

I just posted because your post served no point nor did it yield any insight whatsoever about situation. Other then a weak attempt at a high value prop bet of course.

I am also hopeful Brandon pays back, I believe he is too well know and too easily found to hide from this. That however does not make it right what he has done.

This thread would really benefit from a direct post from Brandon with an idea of what is going on in terms of payment, the longer he leaves it the worse it looks.

Is he referring to MI_T?

I'm working on such a site for p2p transfers and escrowing. I also see the need for it. As for legal matters, I welcome any input on how to best approach those (or any other feedback or suggestions please PM me )

he says he has no computer or internet and he will post on monday (according to those logs from fbook), but for the life of me i can't figure out a scenario where one would have enough internet access to chat on fbook but not be able to post on twoplustwo.

seems off.

also if he is paying people right now -- he mentioned that in the fbook convo posted -- he should be paying %'s to all owed not just picking who he makes good with now

just my 2 cents

+1

Brandon we all know you are reading this and everyone knows you put yourself in a tough spot. However it is a spot from which you and your reputation can recover. The first thing you need to do is to contact every person you owe and make the actual amount owed to all parties available to each of them. These people want their money first but second they want communication and transparency. You are a young guy and that does play a part (favorably) on how you will be viewed moving forward If you start making the right choices .
You need to act soon though Brandon time is of the essence to restore your good name. It won't be easy and you will take some heat but stop the nonsense stories about being sick and no internet etcetera etcetera.

get in touch now man it's not too late, but there is a point where it will be, don't get there bud. Best of luck to you and the people you have wronged

Well, goddamn. This is quite unfortunate. I used to play with him back when I used to be really, really good, which was a long freaking time ago. Also enjoyed the discussions in the "Recommend me some hip-hop thread" that we'd have.

I won't rush to a final judgement until it's all said and done, but I hope it's not as bad as it seems. Anything can happen, and it does go both ways. The kid was always cool with me.

I will say, and this is not a knock on him or anyone else who similar things have happened to, but part of me wonders how things would be in my life if I had some sort of reputation to be able to get myself into these kind of situations, but not actually get into them. Just the borrowing/staking/trading of large amount of money part, all from poker/gambling

I saw the mention of the fact that he has paid some people back since the start of this thread although I haven't heard anyone come forward saying they have received any payment. If this is true I would certainly like to hear from them.

Ricky I'd say you're really far off on your even money assessment. The kid needs help but doesn't seem to care enough to get help or make things right

ETA- Ricky you haven't exactly helped Brandon with his demons now have you

That's a fair point and understandable, but not quite what you said in the post that triggered my initial post itt.

You said your business decision was to keep quite because it increased your chances to get paid. You also said you were aware that could subsequently mean others get scammed because of your business decision. I bolded it for you, since you obviously can't remember:

I didn't say you owe people, I said you enabled Brandon to, and subsequently profited from, further scams. And that the money you got back was stolen from others, as a consequence of your business decision. You said you are sorry, but would do it again.

It might not be entirely fair to single you out, but I responded to your post because I thought it was outrageous. I guess your decision not to post again has nothing to do with myself not changing my opinion. You need to quote yourself and myself wrong to justify your stance in hindsight, that is very telling.

LOOOOOL

As someone who oftens travels with a smart phone with no laptop why can he not post from his phone in this thread

-written from my phone

I've said most of what I have to say via FB. I am not running. I will pay everyone. In terms of keeping in contact, Andy was the only person I was ignoring because I thought the two outcomes were me killing myself or all of this. I had less than 2k of his in my accounts to start. Things prior to this we will have to figure out but obviously I played stakes I wasn't supposed to and I will pay back. I want to get everyone paid and get things under control. Obviously this will take a lot of time, but I will be here in touch. I never meant to scam, I originally had 25k in my accounts from running money up that was a legit loan from a legit family member. I planned to send those wires. I went on a binge and blew it all, and planned to end my life etc. I am back on methadone and will be figuring this out with all parties involved. I apologize for what I've done, it's awful and I've let t drug usage control my life for many years. I hope I can stay clean and fix things here. I will be available by email and pm, I get my laptop back Monday.

If you are able to go on facebook on your phone you can go on 2+2 and skype to communicate with people. You can even transfer money to people via banking apps! Excuses excuses up in here. The only real thing you could argue you would really need a laptop for would maaaaaybe be stars or something.

smh.

I have done awful things and I don't want any sympathy at all. I will fix things, but it will take time.

Ricky is also right I have battled things people can really only dream of. U
I haven't been strong dealing with these things especially lately. I was VERY close til taking my own life, i never thought in a million years id say that. This post is not for sympathy; but to ask that people realize how close I was to not posting here. I WILL make things right. Period.

really hope you get in contact with me as soon as possible. you put me in a terrible situation right now. I had troubles you discribing as well and i totally had been in similiar stuff , theres always a solution and what i learned from mine was , not to hide , get out , and keep in contact with your family and very close friends.

sended you alot messages via all the possible options without any reply yet. Finally you post something at least.

Best wishes

nobody gives a ****, grow up and make things right

You're literally 12 gtfo

Like I said I haven't had a laptop, I'm borrowing a phone now to post. I am trying my best to be transparent and there's no point of me lying at this point.