The fact that Borgata did not issue a statement saying exactly what happened its not just this 1 tournament that is compromised, IMO, the whole series is compromised. We do not know if employees were involved, we do not know who is involved. For sake of argument, what if same thing happens in the Main event and you are one of the last 27 players left in that and same thing happens with same results? you flew to borgata,INVESTED 3-5K WHICH WHILL NOW BE FROZEN/AND MAYBE NOT EVEN REFUNDED, paId for hotel food, missed work and now it gets suspended... THEY NEED TO CANCEL THE WHOLE SERIES, BUT THEY LIKE $ TOO MUCH

Or AC.

This

How has Borgata not made a statement on this yet ?

Lolol let's all join forces and get these cheating casinos shut down for the good of the people!!!!

This policy seems strange in that it could easily result in a player winning more than 1st place money if the tournament is cancelled.

BBB:

That was my first thought too: "Please dear lord, don't let it be Todd Terry!"

Whoever posted that "joke" may have made a big mess in their pants. Todd is a lawyer who has spent plenty of time in courtrooms. The moron who posted that may have just guaranteed him or her self a nasty little lawsuit.

Broken Back Alan of Huntsville

IMO - this is kinda like right after 9/11...****tiest time to be a terrorist/thief in this case...Everyone's guard is up and those responsible are probably in hiding or busy covering tracks. If it did involve an employee how likely is it they make the -EV of trying something stupid again and potentially getting themselves caught...

Unless they have direct reason to believe the specific tourneys are compromised, why cancel them, ruin thousands of peoples plans, and lose all that $$ they'll need to cure their first screw up. The potential for collusion is always large in any card room.. I think its pretty low at the Borg right now because everyone is on guard..

How do the cheaters expect this scam to work? Do they really think that people would not notice such a large amount of extra chips in play.

Why is everyone so quick to blame the Borgata. Anyone can make 100 fake 5k chips in their basement nowadays. a few buddies can split them up and at the right time just quietly palm them and add them to their stack as they play with their chips. It is not noticeable in the slightest, and cameras would not even pick this up unless you want to watch every single player on camera for 12 hours and see if you can spot someones stack increase. Even then it would not be possible as not all stacks are equal, and sometimes chips can be laying behind someones stack. You can also reach into your pocket to get your phone, and come out with 3-4 5k chips and noone can see it... then go back to riffling your chips and add them on top little by little.

This is a bad situation, but borgata cant be to blame. It can happen anywhere. Borgata has one of the best reputations for running poker tournaments.

iT MIGHT BE OUT OF THE EMPLOYEES HANDS ALREADY, the chips could be in the hands of the criminals. What if these people that are circulated the chips are not thieves are just competitors of borgata or have a vendetta against them. And they have plenty of chips tat they purchased from the guilty borgata employees? so they can def. strike again in another tournament , even the main event , just to screw borgata and borgata's imagine and in the same time screwing the players who flew to A.C. and spend a lot of $...SUSPEND THE WHOLE SERIES UNTIL THEY KNOW EVERYTHING

Suspicions would no doubt more likely lie with those players making a deep run, or at least those starting each new day among the chip leaders. One strategy for a scammer with counterfeit chips would be to introduce them gradually during the day- one at a time exchanging them for the real chips from his stack. This allows the fake chips to become diluted amongst other players and builds a resevoir of real chips in the scammer's pocket without any visible sudden increases in his chip stack. Then, at the end of the day, he simply adds all the extra chips he's collected when bagging up his chips. If he happened to have busted before the end of the day then those extra chips would be passed to an accomplice who was still in. Hence, new day chip leaders would probably be a good place to start looking.

I'm not a live tournament player so these are just my rambling thoughts. Are there cameras in these rooms? If so, then would it be possible to focus on the top X chip leaders at the start of day two and go through video footage for possible evidence of passing chips to/from the table?

blame is not the word...its responsibility

Mike:

I haven't been back to Tunica for at least the past two years - and I have no plans to return to any "legal" card room until I see people like "Men the Master" in handcuffs (and an orange prison jump suit) being led off to the clink.

P.S. Please substitute an "h" for the "t" in my last name.

Broken Back Alan of Huntsville

That's a good second post welcome to 2+2. Looks like the TD at Borgata has his minions out doing some PR and damage control before they announce NO REFUNDS.

no refunds and keep 2.6 mill? or does the state keep it? lol im pretty sure its rightfully the players money and Borgata has to eat anything extra. no way borgata gets to pocket prize pool and rake lol

That's a good one. The Borgata tournaments are a joke compared to just about any other live venue.

at this point ill take a hefty gift card to bread & butter

Because it shouldn't be that easy to counterfeit casino's tournament chips. Especially since according to the pics they seemed to be so lolbad.

People have better chips at home games.

This is a false statement.

Sorry for the incorrect spelling sir - my bad but agree with all of your points.

If by "joke" you mean "amazing", I agree.

how is it not a criminal offense, who cares about what the borgata does to the perps. The main deterrent should be jail time. Lifetime ban from all properties and whatever else they can do as a company should be a given.

Because players don't get banned on gossip.

If the players left don`t get a chip chop and only their buyin back I would sue the hell out of Borgota