Oh great, another "lol look at me guyz im awesome oh btw anyone who doesnt play what i play is a ****ing idiot"-guy. We didn't have enough of those already! I really never get why guys like you even bother posting. Things would be so much better for yourself and the forum if you just shut the **** up.

Wow...

graph and nick?

beast...

Will never happen.

pwnd

+1

Much deserved.

+1 , what a tool lol

Just because youre too stupid to do anything but pushfold w under 15bb stacks doesnt mean everyone else is too.

Im assuming youre an LOLlive player who has played 5-10 a couple times and wrongly thinks he's up lifetime because he's delusional about his skill?

"Boku87 is back baby!!!"

Who is this baby to whom you are yelling that Boku87 is back?

Sounds like a prop bet waiting to happen to me. I'm sure you wouldn't be left short of action.

Can't even be bothered replying individually to you all but if you honestly believe in your head that there is even a comparison in terms of skill between 25blind hyper shoveaments than deep cash poker than you really are as delusional as I thought and thats the very reason these games are so soft and basically can be crushed by any "good" cash deep player within days of playing them.

Fact.

25bb cash/cev games =/= 25bb icm hypers. you will get absolutely shattered because margins of errors are almost not existent because of the low edge and trust me you will make boatloads of minor faults for ages because you cannot grasp the nuances in icmranges for both call raise reraise push and fold.

1) Lol dude why don't you set up a nice little prop bet where you have to play x 100$+ hypers in a month and you need to end up profiting. What do you make a month usually? I'm sure whatever it is the STTf/BBV community will take up to double that amount in action and more if you need more incentive. If you're not willing to do that just shut the **** up already, we don't give a **** about your ****ty opinions if you don't have the balls to back them up by action.

2) So according to you all you good deep cash players are basicly just a bunch of life fish then? Because it doesn't make a lot of sense for all these good deep cash players to keep grinding out the little winrates we're seeing today in cash games when they can so easily crush the hypers...

why you get so butthurt hes telling you there's more skill involved in deep stacked cash games then hyper sngs? i mean its pretty obvious when a great hyper player at the higher stakes is barely a winner. The problem is too as hyper edges decrease and may one day be unbeatable, a deep stacked cash game winner will always be making money....why dont you compare the biggest winners in hypers to the biggest cash game winners and see who makes more money outside bonuses?

these arguments are useless if hyperturbos have a lower ceiling for buyins etc. also outside bonuses is a stupid thing to say because one game is more reliant on raking a ****load then the other so its allready apples and oranges but u just made it apples and like i dono a chocolate bar
Again all these arguments are useless lol, dont understand why every sng player wants to convince cashgame players sngs are a better alternative to play

!!

that being said let me make it clear that boku87 is an absolute fish, have played with him for over 3 year and he only got worse while being mediocre to start with to the point that every time i see him again he was playing a lower average buyin till now its kinda pathetic.

I'm not butthurt I am just responding to an idiot, what 90% of using a forum is all about. No idea why you would think I am butthurt over some guy.

Your compairison is also just a bag of ****, there is no guarantee that the edges in deep stacked cash will always remain larger than the rake that is taken out of the game. I don't see why you would even think that to just be magically true.

Finally comparing profit without bonuses between deep stacked cash and hypers is totally irrelevant and you should know that. If in the current state of the games Pokerstars didn't have a RB system the rake charged in hypers would be drastically different, while deep stack cash rake would only change a little.

1) I'll tell you why not. Hypers are not my choice of games and playing $100+ hypers certainly wouldn't warrant any prop bet I'd lose at the cash tables playing a game with small edges. I'm sure most hyper turbo high stakes players woulden't go near cash game deep so how this prop bet would take place is beyond me. As stated, I'm not willing to do it as the action I'd receive wouldn't warrant the amount I'd lose from cash games, unless you could get a high stakes hyper player willing to do 50/50 on hypers/cash which I'd highly doubt + I'd doubt any "high stakes" (if that what you call high stakes, $200 buy-ins lol) hyper player would be willing to play deep poker at real high stakes cash poker.

I can say what I wish by the way..so trying to act the big man via a forum doesn't do it for me. It shows me you are actually probably just a little whipper snapper who wouldn't say boo to a goose in the real world.


2: Clearly you are blind to everything I've been saying. The skill of a decent high stakes cash player far out weighs that of a small skill>luck ratio game like hypers. I know for a FACT from my own experience that high stakes hypers are a ton easier than high stakes cash however, I wouldn't even make the change because one, the winrate is by far much lower and most importantly I don't wish to play a 25bb shove/fold game of a poker.

I play real poker, which involve real decisions. Not a "Oh, I have 10bb left, time to jam, jam jam run good"


ps: The most relevant point is is that comparing "high" stakes hypers to high stakes cash is stupid.

What's classed as highstakes in hypers, isn't more than a few big blinds at cash and in some cases just a BB so tehy are not even comparable.

"why dont you compare the biggest winners in hypers to the biggest cash game winners and see who makes more money outside bonuses?"
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I'm an idiot, but the last two words of this sentence made me chuckle.

'I play real poker, which involve real decisions. Not a "Oh, I have 10bb left, time to jam, jam jam run good."'

You sound like a troll or a high stakes cash games player with a low opinion of sngs making silly comments. They generally sound about the same.

Boku wasn't even beating 50's back in '09, but at least he made decent profit playing the $15-27. He surely does not beat even those now, at least not with mass multi tabling them, might be breakevenish at 10-20 tables. Kinda sad to see him fall so much from winning the challenge, being part of pstars team to now no longer even beating small stakes and having to resort to adding even more tables at micros.

I'll play you hu 5/10 4 tables and $300 hu hypers 4 tables, with intervals of 1hr or so for each if you want. We'll add a side bet too, for who wins the most.

hyperturbos arent even poker until its hu.. and that barely qualifies.

1) That's not what I mean. A prop bet in this situation is "I think I can do this challenge, and am offering you to bet against me at x:y odds". The amount you put up for betting can be as high as you ****ing want.

Yes you can say what you wish and I can call you out if there is **** leaking from your mouth .

2) Yeah just keep repeating the same bull****. Enjoy being a little arrogant ******* on an internet forum bro. And comparing what high stakes should be called purely based upon the amout of money is again a very ******ed compairison that just shows how little you know about anything outside of that 1 game you apparantly are very good at.

The deeper the stacks the more skill is involved, noone can deny that. There's still skill in hypers of course

I started out with SnG's and I've played SnG's and still do occasionally.

Not a low opinion, I know for a fact - I've played high stakes hypers + I'm a high stake cash reg so I think I'm warranted in saying which I think are tougher.

A side bet if I want? Whaaat? Did you read what I said? The sidebet would have to be substantial enough to warrant doing it.

PM details of what you wish, preferably 2knl but I'm ok with 1k. I've got a funny feeling though you are full of **** and likely don't even play either of them at those stakes.

Waiting PM. If I don't receive details within a day or two I'll post back in thread.

First thing first little whipper snapper! I'm not your "bro", so don't call me that ok? Good. Secondly..I'd try get out more if I was you, acting the big man on a forum is so laughable, you're an embarrassment. Studies prove that illiterate idiots like you come from weak sperm. I hope your dad had the snip after you or was put down.

1: You are stupid..Why on earth would I do: "I think I can do this challenge, and am offering you to bet against me at x:y odds".

I simply said, high stakes cash is a lot tougher than "high" stakes hypers, fact. I certainly wouldn't waste my time doing a rubbish, meaningless challenge to win peanuts from playing hypers..?

You can't "call me out" as you state saying I'm full of ****. I've played both, I know for a FACT high stakes cash are a ton easier than hypers, I couldn't care less if you believe it or not LOL.

2:I find it amusing you think I'm putting on an act when you're swearing on a forum and calling me "bro"

bro..lol........


Can't believe I gave you the time of day to even quote you.

I think you are in need of a good clip around the ear hole sunshine. That is all, be gone good lad.