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Old 11-21-2013, 01:43 PM   #31
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Re: Bodog's Phillipines offices Raided today

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Maybe not, but I find it mighty odd that two of these folks both talk about having "invested" in Bovada/Bodog, presumably referring to their account balances. Seems like an odd coincidence, if you ask me.
its much more of a concern that you and even and a mod go in the infamous "don't worry bros mode"
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Old 11-21-2013, 02:13 PM   #32
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All these shill accounts are probably Lock reps obvi
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Old 11-21-2013, 02:15 PM   #33
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its much more of a concern that you and even and a mod go in the infamous "don't worry bros mode"
It's just not worrying, it's full blown panic, for no reason at all.
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Old 11-21-2013, 02:24 PM   #34
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Re: Bodog's Phillipines offices Raided today

so should we worry bros?
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Old 11-21-2013, 02:29 PM   #35
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Re: Bodog's Phillipines offices Raided today

Even if panic were justified, the idea that cashing out your funds in the event of an actual crackdown on a US facing site is the "safe" route isn't really true.
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Old 11-21-2013, 02:37 PM   #36
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its much more of a concern that you and even and a mod go in the infamous "don't worry bros mode"
Huh? I never said anything about "don't worry". I'd be pissed if Bovada gets shut down, I play there regularly.

At the same time, any US players keeping cash on offshore US-serving sites should be well aware of the risks (if not likelihood) that one day they might wake up and find the site gone. I hate that the situation is like this, but unfortunately that is the case at present.
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Old 11-21-2013, 02:39 PM   #37
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Re: Bodog's Phillipines offices Raided today

how can i withdraw
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Old 11-21-2013, 02:40 PM   #38
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Even if panic were justified, the idea that cashing out your funds in the event of an actual crackdown on a US facing site is the "safe" route isn't really true.
this

if this were actually something that should cause mass cashouts then it's already too late to cashout
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Old 11-21-2013, 02:53 PM   #39
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Re: Bodog's Phillipines offices Raided today

as we all know anything is possible from an online site and the various govts, but this sure seems like a BS Troll situation.
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Old 11-21-2013, 03:09 PM   #40
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Looks like the disinfo is spreading.

http://www.reddit.com/r/poker/commen...nsafe_serious/
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Old 11-21-2013, 03:31 PM   #41
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Re: Bodog's Phillipines offices Raided today

Would be wise to follow this thread as well:

http://www.pocketfives.com/f10017/bovada-raided-686481/

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As you may have heard, Bodog Asia has been falsely accused of running a numbers game to residents of the Philippines (part of our license agreement is not to offer services to residents of the Philippines and, therefore, we do not). The local police are, however, obliged to follow up the accusation and we are, of course, fully cooperating with them to quickly clear up the situation. In the meantime, some of our services are, naturally, being disrupted as our staff help the police. We are confident this issue will be resolved quickly with minimum disruption to our customers and we thank you for your patience.
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Hello everyone,

These companies are separate entities; we (Bovada) are based in Kahnawake not Manila, and only outsource some Customer Service functions. Bovada is therefore experiencing some reduced Customer Service capacity but other than that its business as usual. We appreciate everyone’s continued patience.

Best regards,

Bovada Service
If you're on Bovada this is good news. I hope it works out.
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Old 11-21-2013, 03:38 PM   #42
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Re: Bodog's Phillipines offices Raided today

lol time to enjoy some soft games while the regs are sh*tting themselves and waiting for their withdraw to redeposit
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Old 11-21-2013, 03:43 PM   #43
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Hope this is nothing. Otherwise im so screwed right now...
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Old 11-21-2013, 03:47 PM   #44
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Re: Bodog's Phillipines offices Raided today

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Huh? I never said anything about "don't worry". I'd be pissed if Bovada gets shut down, I play there regularly.

At the same time, any US players keeping cash on offshore US-serving sites should be well aware of the risks (if not likelihood) that one day they might wake up and find the site gone. I hate that the situation is like this, but unfortunately that is the case at present.
There has never been an instance where the US has made ANY website using a non dot.com address disappear. You give (well, implied at least) these goons powers they don't have. What they can do, is seize a truckload of money from a company by freezing bank accounts and they can issue indictments from a grand jury (practically meaningless without extradition). If a site goes off line, it's because the owners choose to do it. Am I splitting hairs here? Maybe to a certain degree, but I get a little nauseous when citizens give these rats in the US justice dept.more power than they really have (although they have plenty). Pokerstars left the US because they made a deal with the DOJ. FullTillt left because they had all their money frozen and were broke (running a deficit to begin with).

In theory, what you said is correct due to pressure by the US for a voluntary shut down, but it's not like the US can make any website hosted in another country go poof.

In regards to Bovada, I keep plenty on there, and I am well aware that the money I have there is just numbers until I convert it to Federal Reserve Notes that are in my hand. But give them a little credit, they know everyday the US is looking to seize money from them, so they have a fighting chance if they are properly prepared. Another thing to remember about Bovada is the involvement of the Mohawk Indian nation in Canada. It get's a little politically sticky when the US goes after a sovereign Canadian Indian tribe.
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Old 11-21-2013, 03:50 PM   #45
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Re: Bodog's Phillipines offices Raided today

Bodog/Bovada have survived at least two major US Government actions and are still thriving. I don't think there is anything to worry about here. They have built the organization to withstand any issues.
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