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Old 04-21-2011, 07:29 PM   #16
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Re: The biggest joke played on us all...the PPA!

yeah why isn't the PPA also doing the interviewing!!
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Old 04-21-2011, 07:37 PM   #17
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Re: The biggest joke played on us all...the PPA!

It is pretty obvious the PPA was an organization for the poker sites to buy political power, not the poker players.
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Old 04-21-2011, 07:39 PM   #18
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Re: The biggest joke played on us all...the PPA!

I have to say I tend to agree with OP to some degree, especially regarding the lack of media attention given to everything since Friday. I mean with all the people it has affected in this country, you'd think the news media would give it a little more attention. I've seen one small article buried on page 9 of my states largest newspaper about the DOJ's actions for example. Shouldn't the PPA try to be more proactive in reaching out to the media so others in this country can see whats going on?
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Old 04-21-2011, 07:45 PM   #19
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Re: The biggest joke played on us all...the PPA!

The OP is 100% correct. The bottom line is RESULTS. The PPA was formed about 4 years ago after UIGEA. Now, over FOUR YEARS and lots of $$$ donations later, poker in the USA is in much, much WORSE shape than it was when PPA started out. And that's the bottom line.
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Old 04-21-2011, 07:47 PM   #20
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The OP is 100% correct. The bottom line is RESULTS. The PPA was formed about 4 years ago after UIGEA. Now, over FOUR YEARS and lots of $$$ donations later, poker in the USA is in much, much WORSE shape than it was when PPA started out. And that's the bottom line.
Because they rejected and fought the Bill that was on the table last year because it was bad for PS/FTP. They are only a shell of a political organization for PS/FTP to buy off politicians and influence. They don't really have the players' interests at heart.

Where do you think the PPA's money has come from?
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Old 04-21-2011, 07:52 PM   #21
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What have you done to help improve the status of online poker in this country?
taken shots at the PPA
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Old 04-21-2011, 07:54 PM   #22
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Re: The biggest joke played on us all...the PPA!

I don't know much about PPA to be honest, but I'd love to see some sort of list of what they have achieved over the last 4 years if it is available.
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Old 04-21-2011, 07:57 PM   #23
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I don't know much about PPA to be honest, but I'd love to see some sort of list of what they have achieved over the last 4 years if it is available.
[x] Provide form letters to spam politicians who don't care
[x] Take large donations to push agendas that are good for PS/FTP/UB
[x] Take small donations from the player pool
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:00 PM   #24
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Re: The biggest joke played on us all...the PPA!

the only good reply in this entire thread (including this one) was:

DOJ > PPA
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:01 PM   #25
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The OP is 100% correct. The bottom line is RESULTS. The PPA was formed about 4 years ago after UIGEA. Now, over FOUR YEARS and lots of $$$ donations later, poker in the USA is in much, much WORSE shape than it was when PPA started out. And that's the bottom line.
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:02 PM   #26
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:03 PM   #27
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Re: The biggest joke played on us all...the PPA!

With the exit of Stars and Tilt from the US, is the PPA even going to be around?
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:21 PM   #28
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Re: The biggest joke played on us all...the PPA!

-How does anyone set up and guarantee coverage of a press conference?
-How many of us have done more than what is possible without leaving our homes?
-How does anyone guarantee that our issues will be on the front page of any print outlet?
-How many in this forum were up in arms over the bill proposed by Harry Reid and slamming the PPA for daring to support it?

I get people being mad and wanting the PPA to do 'more'. I guess I'm not exactly sure what people think the PPA is actually capable of, in terms of overall influence in light of the way our government works (or doesn't work). It's taken this drastic action by the DOJ and quashing of the status-quo to seemingly wake us up to more concerted action.

You might be frustrated at what you feel is ineffective action by the PPA over the last four years, but I guess I'd ask what exactly have you done over the last four years regarding this issue? Or have we simply expected 'someone else' to do the work for us?
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:22 PM   #29
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Because they rejected and fought the Bill that was on the table last year because it was bad for PS/FTP. They are only a shell of a political organization for PS/FTP to buy off politicians and influence. They don't really have the players' interests at heart.

Where do you think the PPA's money has come from?
When did the PPA reject last year's bill?
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:28 PM   #30
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When did the PPA reject last year's bill?
Sorry, I was mistaken. I had remembered them rejected the idea of the blackout, but upon further reading, they were willing to take it.
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