So WSJ isn't a credible source? We're getting off topic here though. I just get upset when hard-working individuals like DF or NoahSD get bashed for no reason. It's ridiculous.

Go back to whatever elementary school you failed out of please and repeat the 3rd grade and then maybe come back when you've learned how to read and we can have a conversation.

I'm not sure who you think you're disagreeing with, but it isn't me.

Sophistry. Please provide a factual rebuttal baby.

I didn't mention Noah you dochebag. Noah is a researcher and gets his facts from sources.

To all the haters itt

Please show the posts that you made that were helpful and informative as the news broke since GET started hiring right up to today. Show how you tried to help players by sifting through all the crap out there to try to bring news to tbe masses. I look forward to reading these posts.

Is mise Tompakee

And I wasn't implying that you were bashing Noah either. But many people have, I was just saying that it upsets me to see hard working people get bashed by lazy, tin-foil hat wearing morons who only derive pleasure from putting down others. I have read everything DF has posted and every article DF has written. She has done an excellent job and is very professional in general. It seems ridiculous to bash her or for anyone to insinuate that she has been intentionally misleading us.

..so I'm wrong...when is GBT opening up FTP2 again? DF said sometome in May right? Interesting this recent news is in fact just a lie and Tapei is still purchasing and hiring for ftp2.

I wasnt and am not out to get her....its blind defenders like you that cannot grasp a simple point attracting more attention that what she told us was incorrect...Should I still be patient and let tappie to their thing?

You have a lot more than 11 posts on 2+2 I believe. Welcome back!

I don't know that DF has been misleading us but her latest post leads me to believe that DF/Subject Poker/the rest of the media have been mislead in regards to the GBT deal.

DF's latest post with details of the GBT deal sort of confirms the claims by some, including Wendeen Eolis, that GBT didn't have the funds to complete the deal (or weren't in a position to put it all up themselves) and they needed outside investors to help with the purchase.

It seems that GBT's plan was to negotiate a favorable deal that would attract other investors.

Requiring players to clear their balances isn't unusual, it happened when PokerStars purchased Bugsy's Club, but the very long time it seems it would take players to clear their large balances seems unfair but it would have provided GBT with a lot of time to hopefully show some sort of revenue to attract other investors or a buyer.

Tapei and his attorney were the most vocal in the press regarding the deal. The purpose could have been marketing to get the attention of possible investors.

FTP has their own reasons for wanting the deal to sound more solid than it was. It makes them seem like their doing something to help players and having at least one deal on the table makes it easier to negotiate better terms if another party is interested.

PokerStars might have been on the sidelines watching the deal. They might have preferred to own FTP rather than let someone else own it but they didn't think anyone would buy the stinking pile of crap FTP has become. Hearing that the GBT deal was near completion might have made them make an offer. They were going to be signing a big check over to the DOJ anyway, might as well get something out of it.

GBT had invested a decent chunk of time and money on the deal and I wonder if they're going to get something out if it.

You're obviously not a journalist nor do you understand how they do their jobs.

lol, same old **** speculating till we get official news "next week".

This is the big question. People saying or and goodwill are wrong. To potentially keep anyone else from getting the software to launch a competitor? But that is not worth it alone. The DOJ will have to give them something.

Yeah.. that might be the weirdest criticism I've ever received.

How do you know where DF gets her information? You seem to have first hand knowledge that her sources are of poorer quality than Noah's. Please provide some friggin evidence for anything that you are saying.

I think it will be 2 weeks.

The way this thread is devolving, a little mico managing would not be unwelcome, at least to me. You don't need us defending you either BTW, I think you have shown you have the chops for "Troll Gigging" in the past.

Yeah the goodwill angle is a non starter. Stars would have been better off never getting near this if that is the payoff. They have to get some serious concessions from the doj to put up so much money. The FTP software is not worth that much to them.

Guy Laliberte for sure does....

lets assume that the GBT deal was canceled 3 or 6 months ago.

would stars have taken this step 3 or 6 month ago?

If this page is any indication, I'm glad that I didn't read the last 9 pages.

Why should he/she? You haven't presented a single fact, nothing more than conclusory allegations.

Why do we need to assume 3 or 6 months ago? The exclusivity agreement with GBT ended on March 16th??

If anything, we can assume that Stars would have started to come in with their offer shortly after.

No he's saying IF it happened 3 or 6 months ago would Stars be doing the same thing as today.

Possibly. Possibly not. Meaningless to speculate becuase, given the nature and timing of litigation, it's also entirely possible that had the GBT deal been canceled 3-6 months ago, PS could still have taken this step this week.

The DOJ lawsuit would likely still be in the discovery phase today (in other words, trial would not have taken place), and a settlement could still be reached.

And the answer is the same. Perhaps, perhaps not, but in either instance, Stars could still be doing the same thing today, that they do appear to be doing today.

That is, unless someone else actually managed to close a transaction in between 3-6 months ago and now, which would also be possible, but inherently speculative to the extent it's meaningless.