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09-17-2008 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by scottyclark
And my second point, WOLITZER, please list your degrees in psychology next time you diagnose me. Kid, I have had my hood looked under, and my motor is sound. Now, take that dime store psychology of yours and…oh never mind.
I'm not surprised you've had your head examined to be honest, although the result would suggest that it wasn't done by a very competent doc as it's quite clear, even through the medium of text, that you're absolutely nuts.
09-17-2008 , 06:11 PM
This PHUCKIN muppet kills me. You can attact my sanity, but DON'T EVER attack my therapist! We'll call her 'Lynn' + all those little letters behind her name

Lynn was from a Communist country in Europe, and her family came to the states to escape a communist regime. She is well respected in her field. As a youth, she played in a Girl punk band that had toured places like Japan and had opened shows at Madison Square Garden.

During her succesful decade as an entertainer, her boyfriend was a struggling musician with a band that would go on to hit it big after thier relationship ended. His band? Slipknot. AND Slipknot's Grammy winning song entitled, 'Vermillion Part2' is about, none other than Lynn.

Hear me out. Read the lyrics, AND understand the women is NOT only beautiful, she is a beautiful person. I had a chance to meet informally with her in St. Pete Beach 5 years ago on a freebie in a setting that can only be described as 'on retreat at the compound'.

ANYONE would let Lynn look under thier hood! AND like it. AND I met my ex wife on that trip. WORLITZER, if you dont like this story...please tell one of yours! TELL your BEST poker story or quit trolling this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk0dPtT4kLo

Last edited by scottyclark; 09-17-2008 at 06:21 PM. Reason: to add a link to a tribute to Lynn
09-17-2008 , 06:24 PM
wow, name drop much? Try harder.
09-17-2008 , 06:25 PM
Scotty,

My poor wording and execution of a UB superuser joke failed. I know you are no shill, I too was a low stake MTT player on UB until I found out about the cheating and also b/c UB closed my account without notice or warning.

Keep it up, and I didnt mean to sound like I was accusing you of being a UB shill or anything. I just wanted to try to make a UB cheater joke and it sucked. Going to play in a home game, good luck Scotty, if you need me for anything, do not hesitate to ask, I have been bored since the UB thing went stale and we are all waiting on the KGC or whatever.
09-17-2008 , 07:03 PM
scotty - Wow. You are getting more and more nuts as this thread continues (referring to the biography of your former shrink...that's weird dude).
It's amazing how sane and normal and well spoken you are in your first couple posts about this whole thing compared with how insane and weird you end up becoming in the posts that followed.

Back to the whole bit about dropping the f-bomb or a sec:
I don't think anyone in the entire thread had a problem with that. Your intentions to fit in with the Hellmuth-team type style seemed genuine enough. Then they made a ruling that you disagreed with and had reason to believe was incorrect or that you felt they should have informed you about in advance.
Fair enough.
But getting huffy over the principle of it is just weird (and I think it will be AMAZING to see your reaction to this on the TV show now that I think about it). Bad rulings/decisions are made in poker tournaments and other sports all the time (and I don't think this is even a bad ruling...just a misunderstanding by you of the rules and peharps a failure by them to inform you in advane).
Additionally, it should be noted that the punishment for the violation was pretty much the minimum he could realistically give out here. He understood you probably didn't know so gave a really really tame punishment of one freaking orbit. No biggie. Sorry you did that but he has to do SOMETHING so he makes it super-small so that everyone can move on.

Similar examples:
The WSOP has a bad or iffy ruling go against somebody (which isn't exactly uncommon)...he's just going to walk out of the WSOP main-event on general principle? He had a bad ruling..suck it up and move on.
Matusow dropped an f-bomb that he didn't think should have warranted a 10 minute penalty. He ends up dropping 3 more f-bombs just because he's ticked and runs his penalty up to 40 minutes. He doesn't freaking walk on general principle though. Even Matusow isn't that stupid.
And he ends up making the freaking final-table!!

The refs call a fumble when it should have been an incomplete pass and the replay review screws up the ruling as well. Oh well...that's life. They aren't going to pull their team off the field in protest and forfeit the whole game.

These may sound like ridiculous examples but that's exactly what was done by you here.

And, incredibly, your attempts to damage UB and give them and their TV show a bad name are accomplishing the opposite effect.
I'm now more interested than ever to see this show. And considering how much I hate almost all reality-TV that is truly incredible.
You have successfully marketed this show and made it 'must watch viewing' far more than any television advertising ever could for somebody like me.
I really really hope I'm able to catch part of it (might end up on youtube or something if I can't find it on FSN).
09-17-2008 , 07:09 PM
Lol Scotty you're coming off as a nut job.

I'm not sure what made you think it was acceptable to call someone that on a televised poker game.

Then you blew a great oppotunity.

Peace.
09-17-2008 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
I'm now more interested than ever to see this show. And considering how much I hate almost all reality-TV that is truly incredible.
You have successfully marketed this show and made it 'must watch viewing' far more than any television advertising ever could for somebody like me.
I really really hope I'm able to catch part of it (might end up on youtube or something if I can't find it on FSN).
I'm thinking this is the whole point. His walking out was a huge overreaction that makes no sense. "Reality TV" often makes up scripts that show people at their worst because the audience likes to watch--ala Jerry Springer. OP's overreaction with cameras in tow to his hotel room, followed by further overreaction when his girl friend is contacted because no one can reach him, sound completely fabricated to try to give the audience the feeling of a "real" reality show.

Or maybe OP really is a complete ego nut job.
09-17-2008 , 08:09 PM
I was there, shick... no doubt in my mind it was unscripted.
09-17-2008 , 08:09 PM
AND finally on the issue of MICROBOB. Bob posts seem long and very opinionated. Good News. THAT makes me a candidate for Moderator!

A) I had no intentions mimicking Phil. We made fun of Phil! My reaction to the penalty ’could’ be characterized as simply ala Hellmuth. Make the distinction.

B) I am NOT trying to give the show a ‘bad name’. I poured my heart into the show, and I feel like this: The banter at the tables was absolute gold. The competition was civil. As a group or team, we genuinely came together like a bunch of school girls doing a talent competition. We are good people. Real poker players, real life reality…

C) As far as my reference to ‘Lynn’ goes, I just don’t get you. Oh well. ‘Opinions are like azzholes, every azzhole has an opinion. She is my friend, not my therapist. ’ I’d refer you to her, but I just wouldn’t do that to her.

It is my hope that the show concentrates on the aspect of camaraderie...the very reason I play poker. I play for the social aspect, the one-liners, the personalities, and the clashes. I love to travel and meet people. I play so much poker, I require it be fun, or I can’t stand to play it anymore. Meet my Alter Ego kids, I call him ‘scottyclark’.

AND THAT ‘burnt out’ theory on me issued earlier. Burnt out from playing poker maybe.

Keep thinking in an opportunity or monetary way of thinking Bob. It becomes you. Isn’t it time for you to go tell Cornell Fiji your thoughts on life? Hurry along. Don’t be late.

Good Luck and ENJOY!

Scott Clark
09-17-2008 , 08:33 PM
I lol'd pretty hard at the first paragraph on Hollwood Dave's website:

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, you already know all about the bad boy of blackjack thing. Hey, someone's gotta talk **** on the blackjack tables and it might as well be me! But there are a few things you may not know about the guy people love to hate
I never knew this guy existed? w/e, at this point, he seems pretty chill compared to Scotty Clark.

Scotty, I love how you start off by defending your play on UB as "your decision" etc etc and seemed more than happy to be just another shill for them. Then you storm off like a pissed off toddler who didn't get their way, and now you seem to be spending a lot of free time bashing the company that gave you a chance to play in the WSOP ME / Aruba Classic.

I don't know who I hate more, UB, or soctty clark. Please PLEASE go back to pocket 5's.

Shouldn't this guy be banned for avoiding he profanity filter? I know it's a reach, but please get him out of here.
09-17-2008 , 09:11 PM
OP, you're spiraling out of control, here. Maybe you need an emergency chat with your friend/therapist Lynn. Get her to have another look under the hood.

Is she your friend or therapist anyway? In post #102 she's your therapist but in post #109 she's just your friend. Why the down-grade? ...You didn't fool around with your therapist, did you Scott? Cause that would really be unethical on her part.

Don't hate on Bob. He's just keeping the convo focused on the climax of your story, your meltdown. Me personally, I'd rather hear more about the Minnesota Fat Boys. You promised at the beginning of the thread to get back to them, but you haven't.
09-17-2008 , 10:31 PM
I don't see why you guys are turning on Scott. We haven't seen the episodes yet and when I do (to see how it get spinned) I'll comment on it then. But I swear, y'all can act like vicious piranhas looking for fresh meat.
09-17-2008 , 11:18 PM
Guy gets on a complete crap show (based on the first season) made/endorsed by a poker room of questionable reputation at best then drops the F bomb & get penalized & takes a holy than thou I can do no wrong stance & walks off the show.

You seem like an entertaining although kinda unstable rambling type guy, but a one orbit penalty hardly seems like something to freak out over. I'd be leaning towards this being more a scam to get ppl to watch the show at this point, if the things he said about UB weren't of such a bad nature that it would hurt them attracting new players?

Why did you even go on the show in the first place if you knew of many of the things you're talking about now which it seems like you were long aware of? Did you think they would treat you fairly despite evidence otherwise?
09-17-2008 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TheCanoe

Shouldn't this guy be banned for avoiding he profanity filter?
Oh boy. Another ‘rule guy’. So here’s the rules:

The banter at the final table/show was GOLD. I honestly didn’t realize what I had said, nor was my opponent offended. It was the playful version of the word ‘phucker’ (for all you do-that one's for you Canoe) that you’d call a friend. I had played myself into a tough spot. It doesn’t surprise me that my opponent ‘needled’ me by showing a card, but I know that in a more than a few places in the country, I had a right to call for that card. Besides, everyone was needling everyone during the filming/breaks of the show, and I was NEVER immune. Some of the best burns came at my expense. As far as the ‘show one show all’ rule, I NOW think you understand. The few times I have seen this version of it, in fact, it was also called the ’show one, show all rule.’ Thanks for stating the ‘obvious’ interpretation of the rule though, kids. I argued that one 10 years ago…MY penis knows!

The rule IMO is enforced to prevent taunting, confrontations, and protect ‘lesser’ players from those fast talking, fast thinking players like me that just torments the fishes. That’s the way Jerry C. (well respected, long time floor man) explained it to me here in Saint Louis. I’m big on rules too ladies, and so is Jerry.

SO I playfully called my opponent a name, and was penalized. I was sick. AND NOT necessarily for myself, my image, PHIL, the prizes, BUT for HO and for my final table teammates. Ooooops. I played to the cameras and stormed off, because I had a lot of damage control to get done over dinner break. It made for a fast exit…NOW that’s HOLLYWOOD Dave.

SO (starting to sound like Annie - PH did say she‘s acting crazy lately), I played the cards I had dealt myself. I protested I was never told (true). I can honestly say the ‘You shoulda known better dude’ rule applies here. That’s where I even ‘lose myself’ as I clearly see Fox’s angle now.

I had poured my heart into this production and many parts of me felt…

A) I may deserve a pass-simply as a courtesy for my dedication
B) that maybe we could compromise and call it ‘a warning’-because I wasn’t told
C) at least discuss the situation off camera on break-out of respect to my concerns

I cooled as I waited for Bob Skolnick of FOX with the other TEAM HELLMUTH remaining player, and my teammate helped me regroup (indicative of his good heart), AND THEN I spoke to the DUKE TEAM member that had bluffed his chips off and in a hand described earlier. He told me that the cameras ’got in his face’ (see C above). I comforted him and decided that FOX was simply trying to feed of his misery for the sake of television. Obviously.

Another difference between last years show and this years show I wasn’t prepared for…The ‘get in your face’ angle shot. If FOX was sincere and desperate to the point that they called Cheryl at my home, that they sent cameras to the HILTON 15 miles away from the Casino to get footage of me packed and checking out THEN someone from FOX could have sent over a representative with the two cameramen to address my situation. The cameras seemed to find me pretty easily. THIS wasn't the BDPS I signed on for.

AND Bob Skolnick’s (we’ll call him BS) angle seemed to be fronting the situation and me off. My coaches could not communicate with players on break, Matt was having dinner with his nice wife and I decided to take it up with FOX. BS represented FOX. BS stated the penalty was being enforced and there was nothing to talk about. That after dinner break, I could talk to my coaches (on camera). Another player just told me of the ‘get in your face angle’ AND YES, I acted like a little DIVA. Only after I began to walk out of the Casino did his tune change to 'They're still discussing it Scott. Stick around.' Getting the picture?

I threatened to walk, in a bluff to get the matter addressed, and BS called my bluff with ‘We’ll make you look bad on television’! SNAP. THIS is when I wasn’t acting anymore. My presence is mine, regardless of who feels slighted, regardless of who feels I owe them for running a promotion, regardless of the prizes or opportunities or teammates. UB and I need each other like New Orleans needs another hurricane. I EARNED my spot on the show!

Welcome to Reality Television. Did Ozzy have to go through this? Why do Phill Hellmuth and Scotty Nyugen get courtesies for television and scottyclark doesn't? Why did ESPN bleep every other sentence Mike the Mouth spoke in his latest Main Event broadcast? TALENT!

Good Luck and Enjoy!

Scott Clark

Last edited by scottyclark; 09-17-2008 at 11:44 PM. Reason: to add a wiseazz remark
09-17-2008 , 11:44 PM
holy crap, this is the most entertaining train wreck we've had in a while. we're watching a mental breakdown in progress! Fascinating stuff.
09-17-2008 , 11:47 PM
I'm 99.9% sure this thread will end up being better then show (which I still don't plan to watch).
09-18-2008 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by scottyclark
Welcome to Reality Television. Did Ozzy have to go through this? Why do Phill Hellmuth and Scotty Nyugen get courtesies for television and scottyclark doesn't? Why did ESPN bleep every other sentence Mike the Mouth spoke in his latest Main Event broadcast? TALENT!
i find this just as shocking as you do, i bet neither one of them has won the UB low stakes TLB even once, much less seven times
09-18-2008 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by scottyclark
Oh boy. Another ‘rule guy’.
TheCanoe is talking about the rules here, where avoiding the profanity filter by typing "phucker" or "azz" is against the rules.
09-18-2008 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by scottyclark
Oh boy. Another ‘rule guy’. So here’s the rules:


The rule IMO is enforced to prevent taunting, confrontations, and protect ‘lesser’ players from those fast talking, fast thinking players like me that just torments the fishes.
Scott Clark
ahhh the 'scottyclark' rule.... i wondered where that term came from.
09-18-2008 , 12:44 AM
Why would you support or involve yourself with UB in any way?

Your attempt to make yourself look like a martyr here look pretty stupid after 1) auditioning for a UB show 2) walking off the show after a minor situation where you are wrong in the first place 3) taking a spot that someone else would have loved to have

Knowing how UB operates and having to wear their gear... man you must have felt really dirty having those logos on you. You would sooner see me wearing a swastika on a hockey jersey before seeing me sell my soul by wearing anything that had UB on it.

As far as watching this program, I do not support this shady company in any way and I suggest everyone do the same by not watching this show.
09-18-2008 , 02:26 AM
I just cant resist. I filled out alot of questionaires for the show, with dozens and dozens of questions. Heres a few of my favorites.


-How did you become a professional poker pro? As I said, I do not consider myself a pro, but I do owe my ability to earn a modest living player poker to UB.
-Did you struggle a lot at the beginning or were you a success right away? I have always beat the games. As a child I beat adults at poker, and I just keep winning
-What is the best game of poker you have ever been involved in and why? Pauly takes me to an ‘Italian game on the Hill’ in Saint Louis. It was at a high end Restaurant in the Italian neighborhoods. The game was $5/$10/$20 on the end LIMIT HOLDEM in the 90s. I beat the game for 5 weeks and then mysteriously got ‘uninvited’. I asked Pauly, ‘What’s the deal?’ and he replied, ‘Tony really likes you, but he says this is ‘our game’, and quit inviting ringers from the casino’.
-If you had to play poker against five famous opponents (dead or alive) who would they be and why? Doyle Brunson, Phil Hellmuth, Johnny Chan, Stu Ungar, Jenny Tilly Why? Doyles the ‘Godfather’, love Phil’s tournament play, love Johnny’s cash play, Stuey because we were raised in the same way, and Jennifer for the ‘eye candy’.
-What do you consider the most overrated virtue? Christianity
-What is your biggest secret? If I told you, I’d have to kill you.
-How would you like to be remembered? Kindly
-What do you think you will doing in 20 years time? Probably the same, but better.
-What word or phrases do you most overuse? I’m an old construction worker and my language is pretty common. I am loud, I curse and I am opinionated… BUT, HEY I’M WORKING ON MY %#@%# language.
-What is the trait you most deplore in yourself and why? I have been diagnosed as a Egomaniac with a Inferiority Complex. This can be a good thing. I’m such a controlling human that I have to force myself to be content, but, as a consolation, this disorder drives me to succeed. No one is harder on Scott Clark than scottyclark.

YOU can't say I DIDN'T WARN THEM! LMFAO

Good Luck and ENJOY!

Scott Clark
09-18-2008 , 03:07 AM
Mmmm, so you pay your therapist to talk to you about herself? Dr Melfi would not approve.
09-18-2008 , 03:22 AM
09-18-2008 , 03:37 AM
This thread kinda scares me! (Oh, and I`m not watching the show, obv.)
09-18-2008 , 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Treehorn
UB is the devil imo

UB and AP

      
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