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Old 05-24-2012, 10:13 AM   #286
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Re: Barbara Enright refuses a chop to pay the bubble

Damn she is mean, what a hag
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Old 05-24-2012, 10:54 AM   #287
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Re: Barbara Enright refuses a chop to pay the bubble

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No bc in your scenario the 2players are splitting their total prizes. No matter where they finish the total amount cashed is split down the middle. In my scenario, the two short stacks are agreeing that the next player of the 2 shorties to bust gets half of 3rd money and half of 2nd money. He doesn't get half of 1st money if the surviving short stack goes on to win it. So if the payout are 10k, 6k, 4k. The short stack to bust out first is playing knowing he is at least winning 5K instead of 4K. With the possibility of winning 9K.
OK, in this case my scenario creates MORE incentive for collusion by tying your fate even more closely to that of another player, regardless of where the twomof you finish. Under my scenario, the disincentive for coming in 3rd is reduced even more (because even if you come in third, you have a chance to win half the 1st place prize, plus you dont get to keep the whole 1st place prize if you win it)...but even more troubling, you have the particular incentive to dump your chips to one player rather than the other.

Yet it sounds like you are saying my scenario is OK but your scenario is inherently collusion.
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Old 05-24-2012, 10:59 AM   #288
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Re: Barbara Enright refuses a chop to pay the bubble

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Old 05-24-2012, 11:02 AM   #289
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Re: Barbara Enright refuses a chop to pay the bubble

Have had this happen and people collect out of pocket. She wouldnt have to be in although most of the time everyone contributes.
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:04 AM   #290
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Re: Barbara Enright refuses a chop to pay the bubble

So the bike doesn't know how to handle chops?

Thats my take away from the OP.
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Old 05-24-2012, 12:12 PM   #291
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Honestly if you guys are feeling threatened or being berated heavily for not wanting to pay the bubble I assume you are handling it poorly. The cardroom by my house is right outside of Oakland, a notoriously ghetto and dangerous city, and is full of the sickest degens I've seen in a poker room. These people are poor as **** and go to the casino to play poker terribly and blast off their paychecks on a weekly basis. I have gotten to the bubble of easily 15 tourneys at this place, refused to pay the bubble every time except the time when I had 2 bbs and did bubble, and I have never once felt threatened or intimidated based on my decision to not pay. I've had people bitch at me obviously, but once they see that my decision is firm and I'm not being a dick about it, I just want to play the tourney the way it was designed, they get over it and we play. Don't try to change their opinion on whether the bubble should be paid, don't get into an argument about it, just make it clear immediately that under no circumstances are you going to pay the bubble once the subject comes up.
It's emeryville. Not Oakland. Big difference. Not like your pokering in the middle of east oak or something with bullets whizzing by. On the other hand your just a short drive from ikea and Starbucks if you need to run some errands.
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Old 05-24-2012, 12:21 PM   #292
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Re: Barbara Enright refuses a chop to pay the bubble

i love how people get mad at the person holding the bubble up, for example... $600 mtt recently we were on the bubble, i personally threw in the 20 bucks because i was a bit under avg and it was worth it but people got mad at the chipleader when he said no.
450k with a few 20 30k stacks laying around impossible to bubble if CL. why would CL throw away not only $20.. but also ALL THE VALUE IN RAISING EVERYHAND AND EVERYONE FOLDING OVER AND OVER? god people are so tight near bubble so its BAD to cut that short, especially if you have chips. when you have 4 people saying"lets give $ lets chop" it makes me wanna raise them everytime knowing theyll fold! /rant
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Old 05-24-2012, 12:30 PM   #293
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It's emeryville. Not Oakland. Big difference. Not like your pokering in the middle of east oak or something with bullets whizzing by. On the other hand your just a short drive from ikea and Starbucks if you need to run some errands.
You have to admit that the crowd there is pretty err... Urban.
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Old 05-24-2012, 12:35 PM   #294
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Re: Barbara Enright refuses a chop to pay the bubble

why not just make the bubble 28 then? seems to make more sense......no wait, yeah f**k her
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Old 05-24-2012, 12:43 PM   #295
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OP is Barbara Enright right? From someone no one's really heard of to an nvg hero this fast is pretty impressive. Sick PR stunt
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:00 PM   #296
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Have had this happen and people collect out of pocket. She wouldnt have to be in although most of the time everyone contributes.
Here in LA that never (or very, very rarely) happens. It would take way too long to get 28 people to agree and to have all of them pull money out. Also, I'd wager that at least 25% of them don't even have $20 on them.

I've done this a lot in Vegas at the FT in some of the dailies when it's paying 9 and we have 10.
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:00 PM   #297
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So the bike doesn't know how to handle chops?

Thats my take away from the OP.
OP wasn't discussing a chop. Just a bubble deal.
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:08 PM   #298
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OP is Barbara Enright right? From someone no one's really heard of to an nvg hero this fast is pretty impressive. Sick PR stunt
No one's really heard of? She's famous. If you're a poker player.
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:13 PM   #299
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Re: Barbara Enright refuses a chop to pay the bubble

Her decision:
Pokerwise + EV
PR wise -EV

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Old 05-24-2012, 02:27 PM   #300
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All forms of chops, splits, shares and the rest is pure pussy play. Does the average poker player not have a competive bone in their body.
thhiiiis

who cares about cashing for 1.573 buyins.
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