Reading comprehension ftw!

It's actually fun watching all the NWP trolls come out of the woodwork in this thread...

Wow, just wow.

next they are going ban everyone who looks at online pornography

lol, wtf did u get banned for?

Druff is a good guy over there. He doesn't hate, in fact he is the voice of reason.

There are people over there that try to stop the hate. Would they be banned over here just for being over there?

anyone that thinks dan druff is a scumbag clearly does not know him. as someone that knows him fairly well, i can tell you that he is one of the most ingenuous, fair-minded, moral people ive ever known.

fyp

Why hasn't a "Free Dan Druff" thread been started?

I think your apprehension is unsubstantiated: my experience always was that 2+2 has a very open-minded approach towards sexual fetishes and amusements.

1. Wasn't aware of that.

2. Again, I suspect there is a double-standard here because I think others have done same without being banned.
And I believe the occasional mod has made personal attacks at 2+2 posters as well with perhaps little to no reprecussion although I'm too lazy to go back and try to find examples.

Then why is he one of the principle persons in a hate site? a place where they simply derive pleasure at demeaning and damaging the reputations of others. If what you say is true, he should immediately denounce NWP and completely disassociate himself from it.

MM

The simplicity of your opinion makes me a little envious. Surley my view of the world would be drastically less strenuous if all I could see was black and white.

While I share your disgust for demeaning and damaging the reputations of others, you have to admit that the reputation of the person in question has been severly demeaned and damaged through his own fault. To this day there has not been an official clarification about the well-known accusations.

Although the person in question has contacted me privately and I believe in his assertion of innocence the facts that are public point in different directions.

wrt #1, it was Dynasty iirc.

I believe a 'hate site' is different than an uncensored poker forum. The internet is an intresting place. I love that country song 'im so much cooler online....' People can be whoever they want to be on the internet.

I believe that what we have here at 2+2 is priceless. This site would be a nightmare and lose everything that makes it THE prominent poker resource site if it were uncensored like NWP.

The issue that seems to be at hand is that NWP is an uncensored poker forum. Blaming the proprietors of this site for what its users post there seems unfair to me. NWP is not like 2+2, never will be, it's not like P5's, never will be. It is the American way to have the freedom for a site like NWP to exist. It just sounds so socialist to hear that NWP should be wiped off the face of the earth. As sick and disgusting as it is at times (well, MOST of the time). It should make you cry in happiness that we have the freedom and liberty to post there if we choose.

If I had to choose only 1 online poker site to view online, it would hands down be 2+2. If 2+2 demanded that I was only allowed to participate in 1 site, I could not be a member here any longer.

JRBluff

those people are damaging their own reputations, NWP is just doing the legwork.

No one on NWP has a ever claimed Johnny Chan has a mistress. Yet, you allow a post to stay up here that could damage his marriage. If it were on NWP, we would have the video proving it though.


Dont shoot the messenger. We arent the ones threatening to have an active role in ruining people's live (tossing acid or seducing girlfriends).

Its not a newspaper's fault when they report on something heinous

Mason,
Seems very difficult to be the internet police. Claiming association with a morally devoid site is almost hypocritical with the amount low moral content on 2p2..

Absolutely incorrect. NWP is not a "hate site" or anything of the sort. It is strictly an uncensored forum. No more, no less. A forum is what you make of it, and NWP is simply a window into true human nature. We aren't all pent up tight asses who say sir and can't take criticism. In the real world sometimes your feelings get hurt. Be a ****ing man and stand up for yourself! I feel strongly only cowards and weak individuals post on moderated sites like this. If I feel annette15 looks like a ****ing ewok, why shouldn't I be able to say as much? She is a great poker player and can retort that I'm a broke bad poker player, and not great looking either. To prevent me or her from saying as much is UN-AMERICAN you ****ing nazis. Sometimes people are *******s and you get your feelings hurt. It's called GROWING UP and becoming an adult.

On a side note mason I find it funny you are so anti-NWP, yet not once can I remember your name being mentioned on the site. Not once has anyone had anything negative to say about Sklansky UNTIL he reacted to this situation so poorly. Let's face the facts here he had a 16 year old girl living with him and is currently living with an inbred! He can't do any better than that??? Being a public figure it's only logical all of this would become sensational. It's blowing up now because you are trying to avoid the whole thing and let it blow over. Trust me that's a ways away, and this situation is not done escalating. Feel free to ban me instead of addressing my statement as that's what fascists do. Take care 2+2!

Geez you can't even swear? What are we in grade school? I half expect someone to come along and pinch my ears.

yeah ... god knows what the rest of us are doing

bring back druff

I find it comical that you speak about "being adults" and "growing up." Part of growing up and acting like an adult is realizing what type of setting you are in and what constitutes socially acceptable behavior. NWP is "uncensored", and as such swearing is acceptable there. That is not the case here.

There's a difference between not suppressing someone's free speech, and actively giving the worst element of internet society a loud voice to spout whatever they want. You guys are severely logic-challenged if you really can't see that. By not moderating, you basically guarantee the only people who want to participate in your site are people that no one else will tolerate. So your "window into human nature" is actually a window into the bottom one percentile of the internet barrel. I think you would see that pretty easily if it didn't affect your bottom line.


I could criticize Mason's decisions all day as long as I didn't cross the line into hatred or bigotry or trainwrecking innocent people. He might not like it, but I'm 99.9% sure I wouldn't get banned. And you have absolutely no idea what growing up and becoming an adult means.

No its not, its a window into people who can post anonymously and would never say and act the way they do there in public. I can walk the streets in all kinds of states and not hear a tenth of the racial and lifestyle slurs that you hear in ONE thread there.

Bull .. if you couldn't remain mostly anonymous you wouldn't post like you do, only cowards and weak individuals trash people the way its done there.

No, growing up is when you STOP making comparisons like that

Sometimes moderation is needed when anonymous cowards are allowed to proliferate.

I've enjoyed reading & debating Mr. Sklanky's posts over at the SMP forum. I believe those threads have been largely on-topic and appropriate. I hope Mr. Sklansky continues to participate in that forum, and I see no reason why all of this should effect that.

Well i'm not sure if it has been already mentioned, but most of the jew references at NWP are usually directed towards micon and druff. They might called as jews, but they aren't treated as jews (gz to 4 for that).

ps. if you do decide to unban druff i think it would be a good idea to mark him with some kinda star type symbol so the rest of the population can easily identify his post and at times of emergency/threat he can be easily separated from the flock

You think you're acting like an adult by critizing and demeaning people for accidents of birth that they have no control of (or your opinion of people when they don't meet your standards of beauty)? Should we get rid of all the people that don't conform to your ideals? Who's the Nazi?