I'm just saying these kids have their eyes so closed, and I'm not even old maybe 4-5 years older than these kids, only been around the block a few times and I already know when you throw money and sex into the equation people will cross lines like it's nothing.

All I hear is that this way or that way of cheating is not possible, why would they rip you off, they can't hack this/that, the RNG can't be predicted, 100% you're getting cheated every way that you don't think you are and then some. That's just the price of doing business with online poker atm, as long as your making money that's fine, just don't be oblivious and protect yourself best as possible. And I don't really give a fk about random know it all kids, it's just that every time one of them gets ripped off a douchebag/bad guy wins and that I hate that with a passion.

Have a separate computer for only poker/prob a mac, then run a fresh virtual machine inside of that, you can clone that "poker" VM 100 times with a few clicks. Every few weeks delete the old and just run a fresh VM etc. When you get inside a hotel or setting that is a poker hub use the usb/pcmcia card that uses your phone's high speed network, maybe even have a vpn set up and dial into it that way. I'm really surprised not a lot more people are getting hacked or they are and they don't even know it.

Tokwiro/BlastOff/eWorld/Cereus/Absolute/UltimateBet/GameTheoryHoldings/BurgurKing/Haasbro, Inc. has over $350 Million in outstanding promissory notes according to docs at the liquidator website and has already semi-defaulted twice on the payout to Greg Pierson's dentist and everyone else that owns shares of Excapsa. With less than half of the traffic they had prior to the scandals, it is only a matter of time before SOMEBODY gets screwed big time when they have to walk away from those notes.

Continuing to play on the site provides an ongoing bailout for investors and management who allowed unscrupulous individuals the deepest levels of access. Repping the site is simply unconscionable. If players understood forcing the company to fail might cause angry investors to bring legal action, perhaps the real story might actually be told.

Phil Hellmuth was seriously the reason I started playing poker 10 years ago, he and the rest of team UB have let thier fans and supporters down. This is a sad smear on what was once a great game.

I'd seriously love to hear Hellmuth's take on all this. Like in the form of responding to 'why the **** are you still affiliated with a site that does this ****?'

lol holy ****. it is mind boggling to think how much power these ****ers had, they could have absolutely owned absolute and UB if they were just smart about the way that they played. this scandal could have gone on basically forever, if they knew how to cover their tracks.

It would not have even taken covering their tracks better. If the superusers just were not so megalomaniacal they decided they had to win pretty much every hand, even if it took calling down with Ten-highs, they never would have been found out.

This

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I tried pointing this out earlier, but you said it better than I could.
This post ++10000000

I hate these people with a passion. The smug looks on their faces makes me wanna knock their teeth out. I really hope something happens to them, legally or otherwise.

Another update:

http://haleyspokerblog.blogspot.com/...-expanded.html

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Makes you wonder how many accounts ub didn't name. Good stuff haley. Very interesting

It is really interesting to see it in black and white like that. What it makes me realize is just how blatant the coverup is/was when you consider 1)how blatant the cheating was and 2) how obvious and detailed the evidence against the cheater(s) was.

We need to keep in mind how detailed all of the records involved here were. There's been so little actually released and it was enough to point fingers at specific individuals. Now imagine what "investigators" had access to. They had to know basically everything right from the beginning.

pretty sure they will release more names as soon as 2+2 exposes said names.

Well said