u r correct. i was thinking of dr john cade (aussie) and his discovery in 49

barry marshall's discovery is one of the most fascinating in medicine if for nothing else but to show how incredibly slow and resistant MD's and the scientific community are to accept new ideas.

makes me wonder if the same thing is going on here regarding the massive assault on a baby's body and developmental disorders.

We have a very very large sample of people that have had vaccine. It is as likely that we will learn a gut shot straight draw is a favorite against a set on the turn. We know. You sir clearly have a pattern of being quite sloppy with your assessments. I hope you are more responsible in future. I genuinely wish you every good thing.

LOL I actually am a Redneck and I actually am a Buddhist. It is not to do with pot, though many have thought so. I have no plans to try it, sorry. So, it will be a long wait for the pass!! LOL

This one was a cogent point sir! We can be slow to change ideas, and I argue we should be. A sea change should come from evidence being presented that isn't predicated on syllogistic reasoning. This really is very very solid science.

lol

so that automatically rules it out?

seriously, come on.

The vaccines my kids had, and any other kids thier age have had, don't contain any mercury though. It was takin out of all childhood vaccines. There aren't any simple answers here, and comparing symptoms and deciding thats the cause doesn't provide answers either. So far no study has found any definative answers on whats causing autism. I'm hoping with increased funding and awareness that might change soon, even if it doesn't help my kids directly.

This should've been the OP:

Well Arnold-O, I reckon you had your moment of lucidity. "Seriously, come on." Does not constitute a convincing argument sir.

And, not for nothing, but man she is lovely. She was so charming on that show "Singled Out", and such a nice lady. That Jim Carey is a lucky fellow!

Is she autistic?

Her kid is, she has made the rounds on Oprah.. etc with truly poignant stories about how she has gotten him to improve. I wish them every good thing.

eh...I'm still inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt over some poker forum idiots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5WTa...eature=related

She's objecting to the scheduling and # of vaccinations. The increase in amount of vaccinations correlates to the rise of autism.

One Dr says "which disease do you want your child to get?" if we were to eliminate any of the vaccines. I think this is the point.

Even if the vaccines do lead to autism, this would be represented in a very very small amount of the total # of people taking the vaccines. In which case, death is worse then living with autism IMO = waste of $$ of unnecessary research.

If you choose to believe anectodal evidence over actual scientific ditto, there's something wrong with you. I'm sorry, but there is.

so in conclusion looks like no one knows what is true or not...

what type of research is this charity doing anyway? or are they using the proceeds of the charity to fund ad campaigns against vaccinations?

You seem to be a bit slow. How can this be your conclusion after reading this thread?

Here's the short version for you:

After the original scare study in the Lancet medical journal (which later turned out to have disgustingly bad methodology and a severely biased author), there were massive population studies done in several countries to see if there were actually any causal link. They all came up completely blank.

It's impossible to get any better evidence that vaccination does not cause autism... what more do you want? Jeez.

(But because this falsehood is perpetuated to scare parents away from childhood vaccinations, children are going to die of diseases they did not have to die from. That's why this "charity" is bad.)

Did you get it now?

People who don't understand statistics and science just rubs me the wrong way...