So angry and so wrong.

“Remember, always give your best. Never get discouraged. Never be petty. Always remember, others may hate you. But those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself.”

Anyway, it is a serious question. Why doesn't 2+2 just cut off all AP/UB involvement?

They aren't going to censor this type of discussion and when someone posts asking about the bonuses or promos they get bombarded with the past crimes.

I believe when the cheating scandals broke 2+2 stated they would not accept advertising from these two rooms. IIRC an affiliate was even asked to remove AP/UB from a rotating banner. I could be mistaken but I believe this is the 2+2 policy. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Thank you. I would not want this type censored, and I was aware of the promo ban. I meant threads like "Official" AP/UB regulars, and AP mod threads, or and thread started concerning anything from the site. A mod insta-closing it seems appropiate punishment.

No, sometimes I talk like this.

Writing is a craft. Because the Internet operates in perpetual casual Friday mode does not make it less so...

PTR's summary.

Tokwiro's PR confirming the security upgrade:

Why do they bother with this crap. The only people who read it are us and we just throw up a little. Maybe that's why.

how did they implement SSL so fast? It was my understanding via all the techie posts that this took a matter of weeks

A lot of people said about a week and they took about a week.

TY for paying so much attention to this matter noah :-)

Nice article.

This might have sounded impressive during the dot-com bubble in 1998. It makes them sound like a joke, over a decade later.

criminals should be behind bars

By patching it together very, very quickly and (probably) not worrying too much about the possible consequences.

I used to work as a programmer (though a long time ago now) and a week sounds like the minimum time needed to do the job, which was not enormously difficult in itself. They didn't implement SSL; they would have used a library.

But to have done it all in a week means that, beyond a shadow of a doubt, they left themselves no time for an adequate testing regime. The new version hasn't been properly tested -- we can infer this simply from how little time has elapsed. That's why they have outsourced the "testing" to PTR, which in any case has no access to the source code so is not capable of testing the system rigorously. This is incompetence pure and simple.

Your post suggests that PTR is incompetent because they have endorsed the new security without testing it rigorously.