The Annual Men Playing in the Ladies Event thread.

[Profit is Profit]

The argument that there should be a 'men only' event as a counterpoint to the Ladies Event is missing the point of why the event has been created.

I don't believe that women face insurmountable discrimination in Poker rooms. They are a few knob jockeys at the cash games and a handful of bigots across a whole tournament, but for the most part, people playing the WSOP are just happy to keep their head down and play their game.

Rather, the Ladies Event exists to promote and advance the participation of women in our community. Poker is a mind game and can be competed on at an equal level by people of any gender, sex or ethnicity. Women are a minority only because they have not been as exposed to the game. Historically, there have been few opportunities for women to pariticpate in what has (since post WW2) been a regular 'male evening' across America and Europe.

Poker sites are showing much greater awareness of women as an untapped market of clients. Pokerstars Women exists to appeal to the half of the population who might have learned the game over men's shoulders, but never had the chance to compete. I believe this department is doing a better job at promoting the game than any other. This recent article does well to point out when women excel in the game, their achievement should be lauded louder - not because it is a triumph against adversity, rather, simply because by nature of the percentages, they are significantly rarer.

[KansasCT]

I bet most of the pros that are very vocal about this are only pissed because they envy the males who don't care about what others think and will join the tournament regardless, because they know there is really an edge there.
and no, I don't like men who do that either, but the pros sound so pissed.. just check negreanu's tweet about it. he wanted people who played this to become homeless, wtf? it looks like they take that too personally. even women don't seem that pissed.
also, they should just ****ing prohibit men from entering the tournament so we don't have this argument year after year.
and I disagree with people saying this event shouldn't exist. there are a lot more men than women playing poker and women often feel they are not welcome at the tables. If there is a women only event this will help poker to become more popular between women and hopefully they'll start playing others events too.

[Patrick Jane]

Originally Posted by buzz12586

I agree. Having a women only event is pretty much saying "women aren't as good so they need their own event". Same goes for the senior event.

I agree with the first part but for seniors you are just wrong. The mind detriments and your stamina gets weaker when you get older. Seniors should definitely have their own event just look at how popular it was. And I still think there should be a woman's event too just because women like playing with each other. Wonder why.

[MrBump]

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[Jigsaw]

Originally Posted by evechad

If playing ladies events means I'm a douche, then I wanna be a douche.

Congratulations! You have achieved your goal.

Now you do not even need to play in the ladies' event.

[jwa4894]

Originally Posted by Patrick Jane

I agree with the first part but for seniors you are just wrong. The mind detriments and your stamina gets weaker when you get older. Seniors should definitely have their own event just look at how popular it was. And I still think there should be a woman's event too just because women like playing with each other. Wonder why.

Jesus HC. I'm beginning to wonder if half the posters on this site have ever left their bedrooms.

[TheShanachie]

What male would want this on there CV

Seriously

"And next to the table please welcome winner of a WSOP circuit event, 2 WPT final tables and Bracelet winner in the 2012 Ladies event John Doe"

F@#k that

[RMB]

I think all of this unnecessary drama and hoopla each year brings more attention to the fact that men can play in these events... If there wasn't so much BS attention surrounding this event each year there would probably be significantly less guys entering, or knowing that they were even allowed to enter.

I mean, an average dude wouldn't just walk up to the counter, look at the schedule, see "Event #51: Ladies No-Limit Hold'em Championship" and think, "I should enter this one!"

[ferVance]

Barry Greenstein should play the Ladies Event, pledging to donate all winnings to breast cancer research. After all, it's much harder these days to be a poker player philanthropist. So why not win money from the most +EV trny in the world. If a woman wins, they'll just use the winnings on shoes and handbags.

[MonsterJMcgee]

Originally Posted by BADUU

That's what I was going to say about people who worry about things that don't affect them. They are *****stupid.
Like men entering women's only events. How does that affect you?

Yeah, we should prob just shutdown 2p2, the internet, news publications etc because they all involve people opining on topics that don't affect them, and that's just *****stupid

[LancyHoward]

I'd like to see a partners or team event.

[Professionalpoker]

Originally Posted by thess123

A black only event would help grow poker, too.

There actually was one of these. When Planet Hollywood first opened, hosted by David Williams and aired on BET.

[fingersmith]

Originally Posted by starvingwriter82

In all seriousness though, the whole "make a mens only event too" thing is just lol.

Promotions happen like this all the time everywhere in the world, because business owners want to tap into a revenue source outside their target demographic.

A ladies event helps grow poker.

A "mens only" event would not.

I'll put it even more bluntly: If you're a young, English speaking, white male in good health, and you're complaining about inequality, you're an idiot.

Originally Posted by RikaKazak

I love how sexism is ok...but racism isn't.

I mean, they're both pretty much the same thing imo.

Next year white only event? Maybe an asian only event?

(in before racist ban, I'm white, wife is asian, lol can't call me racistaments)

^^only 2 posters who seem to 'get it' ITT

Originally Posted by molinn9

Its just ridiculous why man are entering the ladies event. Just led them have it its a fair deal alot of women arent as competive as man and they do belong toghether its just a fact. Wsop should have imo like they do 60 something open events and like 20 women event with like maybe 1/3 1/4 of the buyin in the open event. That people dont see this is right is just mindblowing and all this women can play as good as man is just crap everone knows. They need separated events just like in chess and bridge.

molinn9, i've been wanting to say this for a while. you are hands down the best gimmick account on 2p2!

[Michaellawre]

If they can't legally stop men then we discuss this all day but they are gonna enter anyway.

OH DN is way over the top this year with all his comments. Must have won some money this year

[PeteBlow]

To those idiots who want to enter the ladies event because they think it's +ev, why not use the ladies restrooms too? There's less of a queue so you miss fewer hands, also +ev..