Has he been on LATB since Dougs video and the blow up? Seems like he might have a hard time getting televised games nowadays.

I wonder if Doug would have ever made the video if Alec didn't have such a tilting intro...

FYP

Alec has basically GG his brand over 10k.

Alec may have 30k YouTube subs, but Doug's video on this situation has been viewed 140k times; with how YouTube recommended videos work, Doug's video probably pops up on the right hand bar of every Torelli video now.

Throw in 2p2/twitter/gossip in poker rooms and I'd say that a large percentage of the 30k subs know about this.

He may still be able to salvage something by coming in, admitting he made a mistake and forgot to tell the show producers he was adding on money and it all snowballed from there etc. Give Wolf back his 10k, throw in another 5k to a charity of Wolf's choice and be honest. People are pretty forgiving when someone just admits that they ****ed up.

However, Alec seems to think he is some sort of god so his ego probably wouldn't let him do that. Shame tho, he is effectively saying goodbye to all those juicy streamed cash games, freebies at various tournies, as well as being able to produce such inspiring content for his core group of followers. Oh and his partners travel vlog thing is GG too. Basically anything he ever does online is gonna be linked to here, which means the trolling will follow.

I went to Youtube to see how much this would be in effect...

I searched for Alec Torelli, and Dougs video is the number 1 result. Doug's channel is the #1 reccomended Channel, and that video is #1 in almost all of his videos.

I think his time is up unless he makes a pretty crying apology video.

Believing it's common and believing it's something that should be frowned on are different things.

I think a lot of people immersed in poker would do this type of thing if they thought there would be no repercussions (poker pros are a particularly cynical bunch).

But there're also a lot of people who play poker, usually not as professionals, who're principled about these types of things who would choose against people playing with anyone they view as being dishonorable if given the option. Most of these people will never see the videos or hear anything about this debacle but some will, and if you were a pro playing in a private game with a bunch of fish and alec torelli, showing them the doug polk vid would be a strong play.

In his tweet, he specifically responds that he would respond to Polk's video. I think he may have had a super defensive Trumponian-like attack against Polk ready to go ("you weren't there, TV was edited, you're just jealous when I soul-read you on LATB, you're trying to build up your youtube subscribers by attacking a known entity, you're trying to piggyback off my success, I'm better at poker than you, etc etc etc"), but that strategy went completely out the window once Polk won the one drop.

Probably THE reason for the delay. He's trying to figure out the best way to turn this into a Pay-4-View event......

I mean, cmon, who wouldn't pay to see a bunch of crocodile tears streaming down his face?

These are good points.

I think this is pretty plausible, given the info about his personality that's come to light.

There are no real repurcussions. Hence why Alec hasn't responded or paid any money to settle.

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You're both ridiculous, this is the absolute least likely possible direction he'd take.

Care to back up your assertion?

My (most recent) thoughts on Alec.

https://youtu.be/990hzrtOT3o

Wow^ The Wolf fires back!

lmao this is too good to be true

lol

Well done man.

Savage.

Alec Torelli went north. The TV graphics has his chips wrong and he went from one $5k chip to two $5k chips. There is a twitch video with the entire session: Someone in the comments of Doug Polk's video, who is a friend of Wolf, found all the details we need to know.

This is an excellent analysis of what happened:

bbsbass
Hey Doug, the raw live stream footage of this session is still available on twitch. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/58450160 I went through and did some analysis of it. I'll list the interesting pieces here with timestamps. Full disclosure, Dan Wolf is a friend of mine. 02:38:19 - This is the first hand of the post-dinner session, so Torelli has just sat down and gotten his chips set up. He has a single silver chip on the table, nonetheless it has already taken its position towards the back and to the side of his stack. There is a gap that would allow some of the people at the table to see it, although certainly the people to his left would still have some difficulty. Over the next 20 minutes or so any time they show Torelli's stack that gap between his orange and green stacks gets a little smaller and smaller (for example 02:51:59,) until: 03:01:58 - We see Torelli finally push his orange stack the whole way against his green, completely covering his silver chip. Notably Dan has not yet sat down at the table at this point. 03:05:39 - Dan makes his, ahem, entrance and there's that silver chip tucked away. Completely hidden from his view as seen at 03:06:21 from his angle. And that's exactly where it remains for the entire time Dan is at the table until the hand in question happens. Everything stays this way until: 04:24:00 - Torelli loses a big pot to Tilly, putting him down a little over 10k for the session. His silver is still covered by the oranges 04:25:14 - This is one of the most interesting pieces of the video. This is the exact time we can see Torelli reaching into his jacket pocket to pull out the second silver chip. Unfortunately the camera cuts away before we see him pull it out, but the next time we can see his chips he has two silvers. The second one goes right on top of the first one, notably still covered up by his other stacks even though he's clearly now interacted with them and could have moved them out front. Also worth noting, even though players are supposed to notify the PNIA production crew when they're adding on (so the chip graphs can be updated accurately,) Alec doesn't tell anyone. Neither the crew or the players at the table. For the rest of the time from now until the hand in question the count of his stack on the graphics is $5k off. 04:25:41 - The next view of Torelli's chips, an ariel view, showing the two silver chips. Although is it admittedly a little hard to say conclusively that there are two there. 04:29:35 - The next clear view of Torelli's chips, clearly showing the second silver on top of the first, both tucked completely behind his oranges and greens 04:30:57 - The next time we see a graphic of Torelli's chip count, showing that it is not updated to reflect his added $5k. 05:09:52 - This is the last hand Torelli wins before the hand in question. In the PNIA video we see him try to justify himself to the floor by saying that he had just won a hand and put those orange chips in the way of his silvers as a result of it. But this was a small pot that netted him 0 orange chips, and also left his orange stack exactly where it had already been. That is, in front of his silver chips. 05:15:00 - The hand in question finally starts. Notably Torelli's chip count graph is still inaccurate, and the announcers (once they catch up with the action) are also unaware about the true size of Torelli's stack and mention that they must have missed the rebuy. Overall quite a few interesting bits there. You can draw your own conclusions from these pieces of evidence, such as they are.

Again, go find this is the comments section of Doug Polk's video on Alec Torelli. He went North for $5k and hid that $5k from the table. Not even the dealer could see it. Look closely!

That was ****ing fantastic and definitely needs to be embedded here rather than just linked.

LOL I love you

The best part was that it was actually pretty good. Solid diss rap

Incredibly good, well played. Well written and well rapped too.

Art can be very powerful.

Well, how about the fact that Doug won the One-Drop on June 5th, and Torelli's tweet came the next day, June 6th, at 1:15pm. I think that pretty much backs up YGO's assertion that your hypothesis is ridiculous, unless you somehow want to also hypothesize that Torelli hadn't yet heard that Doug had won before he sent out his tweet.

Wolf/Soggy,

You killed him.

RIP Alec Torelli in life and all social media forms. namaste

Haha that's one reason why it's not true, but that's not even why its such a ridiculous claim.

I don't even know Alec, but you can tell that he's somebody who's rather calm and collected, and very unlikely to lash out at somebody or say something emotionally charged (like hello, we're all bashing him for all his yoga/meditation stuff). Plus it's just an insane strategy to try and call Polk bad as a justification for you cheating....it would come off horribly and it's an insult to his intelligence to think he'd ever even consider that a plausible solution.

I don't understand how an amateur can push out a video (of such quality) faster than a professional.