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Old 04-10-2017, 11:48 PM   #101
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Re: Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet victim remission

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Old 04-11-2017, 12:04 AM   #102
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Re: Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet victim remission

Yikes!
Never played AP but played extensively on UB way back when. I had a nearly 6 figure balance from Aruba Classic sats back when they paid cash for multiple wins which I basically left on site forever for what in hindsight were stupid reasons.

Saw the thread and tried it with my UB login info and blam - showed the balance I wrote off long ago.

Even if they pay only a fraction I consider it found money. Thanks PPA..

Last edited by pghduilaw; 04-11-2017 at 12:06 AM. Reason: Originally had one of those neteller debit cards and when they died I got spooked and left money on site for "safekeeping"
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Old 04-11-2017, 12:06 AM   #103
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Re: Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet victim remission

SWEET MOTHER OF JESUS!!!! WOOOOOT WOOOOOT!!!!!!!!!!!

Had my correct balance and everything Random question, it didn't have anywhere to put my ach info in, and I can't remember if during the full tilt process if it was during the same time or a different time. (for some reason I think there was a form emailed to us, but my memory is bad and it has been so long)
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Old 04-11-2017, 12:19 AM   #104
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I'm from the netherlands and haven't received a email and i wasn't able to login either, so i emailed them. I would let you know if i hear something from them..
Used to grind vs you like 12 years ago on Everest. Old times.

GL with your money, haven't gotten an email here, from Canada.
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Old 04-11-2017, 12:24 AM   #105
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Is there any ROW player (so NOT from USA or Canada) that either recieved an email or was able to login using his information?

Until now this kinda seems as an all american party..
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Old 04-11-2017, 12:25 AM   #106
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Anyone else get this version of the email? I was never an affiliate, and it's not clear to me what they mean by professional player (I was never compensated or paid by UB/AP). Also, my login info didn't work.
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after entering my details this is the message that came up...........
Based on your account history, you have been designated an Affiliate or Professional Player. All transactions for players designated as an Affiliate and/or Professional Player are presumed to be Affiliate or Professional in nature and result in a default account balance of $0.00.....................I was not either one of them.........are they trying not to pay me back because I had over 100k in my account?.........then if I click on dispute amount it is telling me to upload documents.........what documents do I upload.......this is like my 5th laptop since bf......all I had saved on the laptop i played on was screen shots of the account balance......I dont understand.......I know nothing about how affiliate programs works and they are going to say I was a professional player because I had about 117k or so......I emailed them......I saw someone write somewhere that for some players on FTP they had a problem cause some accounts who had rakeback were tagged as affiliates......I had rakeback with raketherake, im hoping that has something to do with it......im getting more sick then I have been for the last 6 yrs....
Unfortunately I don't think it's the RB. If you click around on the FAQs, number 15 states the following: "A Professional Player is any player who earns a majority of their income from playing poker, or is known in the industry as a Professional, as approved by the Department of Justice."

In other places it says conflicting things, like #25: " What if I received no Affiliate or Professional funding from Absolute Poker?
If your account history indicates that there are no Affiliate or Professional transactions funded by Absolute Poker, you may enter $0.00 when asked to quantify the value of proceeds from Affiliate or Professional transactions funded by Absolute Poker. You will then be able to continue with the online filing process."

I had a very high account balance, I imagine there's some threshold for which you get tagged. I emailed asking for clarification, will post if i hear anything. PM me if you (or anyone else in this boat) wants to converse further via email.
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Old 04-11-2017, 12:39 AM   #107
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Did Anyone from europe or germany got an Email or at least was able to receive information about The balance by entering Player id, Name and Email?! When i try to do so, it says that nothing was found. Also how can we european claim anything, when there is only the US available as a country? Thx!
Same for me, I have the correct info as I've found my last cashout-email from april 15th 2011, and I found my screenname in holdem manager. Still can't login. Didn't get an email.
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Old 04-11-2017, 12:51 AM   #108
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Unfortunately I don't think it's the RB. If you click around on the FAQs, number 15 states the following: "A Professional Player is any player who earns a majority of their income from playing poker, or is known in the industry as a Professional, as approved by the Department of Justice."
That's strange. I can't see why being a poker pro would affect your eligibility for compensation. They must be talking about people employed by UB/AP as a prop or as a sponsored pro?
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Old 04-11-2017, 01:05 AM   #109
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That's strange. I can't see why being a poker pro would affect your eligibility for compensation. They must be talking about people employed by UB/AP as a prop or as a sponsored pro?
if that is true.....and I dont receive my money because the majority of money I made was by playing poker that is really insanity......so because I had a 6 figure balance that means I made the majority of my money playing poker and I am a professional......this is going to kill me all over again.......received my money from ftp with no issues at all I guess because it was only a 5 figure balance so I wasnt a professional.......please god do not let it go down like this....
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Old 04-11-2017, 01:09 AM   #110
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Re: Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet victim remission

prob doesn't help euros but if any US folks can't process their claim double check your e-mail address. it wasn't recognizing mine at first because my UB gmail account was being forwarded to another gmail account. so when i searched for past UB e-mails it appeared the latter was my UB e-mail when in fact it was the former.
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Old 04-11-2017, 01:24 AM   #111
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Received the email this afternoon and filed the claim. Would be a miracle if I received any of that money. Thanks PPA.
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Old 04-11-2017, 01:26 AM   #112
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if that is true.....and I dont receive my money because the majority of money I made was by playing poker that is really insanity......so because I had a 6 figure balance that means I made the majority of my money playing poker and I am a professional......this is going to kill me all over again.......received my money from ftp with no issues at all I guess because it was only a 5 figure balance so I wasnt a professional.......please god do not let it go down like this....
No offense to you and I'm sure your some big name pro (or were) but at this point anyone that profited off AP and was associated with them in the slightest sense shouldn't get a red cent imho
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Old 04-11-2017, 01:30 AM   #113
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Re: Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet victim remission

What happend to the ap thread that was in nvg that was like 2700 pages long wonder if it got locked they should def unlock that now...... I remember guy constantly trolled that had 6 figs saying it was 98 p of his net worth always antagonizing other hopefuls that thought they'd get paid ohh pure gold that guy was

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Old 04-11-2017, 01:40 AM   #114
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No offense to you and I'm sure your some big name pro (or were) but at this point anyone that profited off AP and was associated with them in the slightest sense shouldn't get a red cent imho
hope your kidding
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Old 04-11-2017, 01:47 AM   #115
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hope your kidding
Well I read a few of your previous posts (saying ppl like hellmut and Annie duke ) shouldn't if u just had 100k on there and that made you ,a pro then ok different story
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Old 04-11-2017, 02:07 AM   #116
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Well I read a few of your previous posts (saying ppl like hellmut and Annie duke ) shouldn't if u just had 100k on there and that made you ,a pro then ok different story
no idea what your even talking about in the slightest to be honest
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Old 04-11-2017, 02:37 AM   #117
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Re: Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet victim remission

How will this money be taxed? I'm not seeking tax advice, just curious

I thought they were off by 6-7K but maybe I was just optimistic. It was close enough for me. I'll take what I can get!

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Old 04-11-2017, 02:57 AM   #118
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Re: Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet victim remission

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Old 04-11-2017, 03:33 AM   #119
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Subbing to find out what to do as a Canadian UB player

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Old 04-11-2017, 03:46 AM   #120
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This is amazing news! Never thought I could actually be thankful to the DoJ, but this seems above and beyond what we all expected.

Unfortunately I'm also in the boat of being short at least a grand of my $3,xxx balance, if memory serves, and have no way whatsoever to prove it. I'm wondering if I should just file and take the loss, or try and dispute it telling them I must have had a withdrawal pending. I don't mind waiting more years for them to check into it as I'm already well used to the waiting and this is found money. But if I have zero evidence to back up my claim it might just be wasting time for nothing. Thoughts?

Edit: Does anyone by any chance remember what the max withdrawals were for various methods at that time? Longshot...

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Old 04-11-2017, 04:10 AM   #121
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Re: Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet victim remission

I am a US citizen and always played from the US until after Black Friday. I changed the address on my UB account in October 2011 to a Canadian address in a last ditch effort to get some funds off and was unsuccessful. Unfortunately I did not receive an e-mail and have not been able to login either. I e-mailed them and will post when I receive some sort of answer.

If any Non-US based poster receives some sort of an answer please post here
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Old 04-11-2017, 04:40 AM   #122
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This is amazing news! Never thought I could actually be thankful to the DoJ, but this seems above and beyond what we all expected.

Unfortunately I'm also in the boat of being short at least a grand of my $3,xxx balance, if memory serves, and have no way whatsoever to prove it. I'm wondering if I should just file and take the loss, or try and dispute it telling them I must have had a withdrawal pending. I don't mind waiting more years for them to check into it as I'm already well used to the waiting and this is found money. But if I have zero evidence to back up my claim it might just be wasting time for nothing. Thoughts?

Edit: Does anyone by any chance remember what the max withdrawals were for various methods at that time? Longshot...
for some reason 3,000 is sticking out in my mind for checks.

i also remembered having a little less than 10,000 in my account and now it says a little less than 7,000.
if my memory is right then i probably requested a check when black friday hit that never got sent but reduced my balance.

i'm trying to get into my old email account to see if i made a withdrawal request on or after BF to see if I'm right but so far no luck.
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Old 04-11-2017, 05:13 AM   #123
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Re: Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet victim remission

luckily i didn't had money on those sites, but fingers crossed for everyone, who had money there!

@ international players: it's weird, that there're some mixed messages, but while i really hope, everyone gets refunded, i somehow doubt an american department cares about foreigners ... anyway, like i said fingers crossed
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Old 04-11-2017, 06:04 AM   #124
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Re: Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet victim remission

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How will this money be taxed? I'm not seeking tax advice, just curious

I thought they were off by 6-7K but maybe I was just optimistic. It was close enough for me. I'll take what I can get!
There won't be automatic taxing of this money, nor any reporting to the IRS of the remission (if goes the same as FTP remissions). You do owe income tax on the profit portion of the money when received as gambling income, if you didn't count it as income already in the year you won it.

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for some reason 3,000 is sticking out in my mind for checks.

i also remembered having a little less than 10,000 in my account and now it says a little less than 7,000.
if my memory is right then i probably requested a check when black friday hit that never got sent but reduced my balance.

i'm trying to get into my old email account to see if i made a withdrawal request on or after BF to see if I'm right but so far no luck.
For the FTP remissions, it was sufficient evidence to claim that you made a withdrawal that you never received, and provide your bank statements from the time showing that you did have any corresponding deposit. I would expect the same to apply to disputing your remission amount for AP/UB. Further documentation is helpful (screenshots, emails from AP/UB for the withdrawal, etc.), but not necessarily required for the dispute to be accepted. It likely will add one to two years until you receive your remission (you don't get the undisputed portion first and then the disputed portion later).
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Old 04-11-2017, 06:56 AM   #125
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I wouldn't be so sure on getting 100% back, remissions process probably has TONS of people working on it for YEARS. Garden City Claims isn't doing it for free...
I am so sure. The DOJ settlement with PokerStars included will over $500M in cash. The FTP remissions have totaled about $120M. There should be plenty of money left over to pay 100% to AP/UB players, despite any extensive billing by GCG.
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