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Old 02-21-2014, 03:07 AM   #26
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Re: 2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts are out

joey,
i'm watching the first one.
great idea. it's hard to follow the hands though. isn't there a hand viewer you could use?
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:09 AM   #27
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Re: 2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts are out

No Hand Viewer.

Use a few gifs to convey the action. Maybe even implement a few Plasticine characters.

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Old 02-21-2014, 11:29 AM   #28
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Re: 2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts are out

Not sure on the best way to reply to 15 messages at once so I will split it up into a couple posts



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Keep the bashing on regs, its fun

It is fun for me too I will


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#YOLO

any footage of joey PUA for old times sake?

The good ol days, can I share the story with your landlord on the pod??

My little brother (15) wants me to take him to the mall and do a couple youtube vids where I try to teach him how to talk to girls. Little kid pua strat maybe

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more details on nude beach with the restaurant manager obv.
check fb

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Joey confirmed nude beach nit, didn't see that coming!

Great stuff, thx for going easy on my spew vs ravens



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Hilarious stuff......I selfishly wish you started doing this while we were grinding the same games on Stars a couple of years ago. Keep 'em coming!

I wish I was doing these then too, would have been talking **** about the plays I made the whole time tho

I'll go back in the archives and see if I can find some hands between us but I think that is like 3 years ago, have to email stars and see if they can send from that far back
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Old 02-21-2014, 11:39 AM   #29
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Re: 2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts are out

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joey,
i'm watching the first one.
great idea. it's hard to follow the hands though. isn't there a hand viewer you could use?

I have thought about doing this as well, I think being able to follow along with the hands as written down really should be easy enough but I know many noobs out there aren't good at reading HH's. I think it makes it better for some people that do understand how to read them to follow and see the action on earlier streets/sizings used in that spot, how many in pre...etc.. as I spend more than a couple minutes talking about the hands.

I'll try to figure out a way I can incorporate both into the screen, I think there is probably some pretty simple way to do that.

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constructive critisism:

try to up the mic levels/stop mumbling.

stop saying u dont know what ppl are doing in all hands and joke it off, its fun a couple times, not every hand. or try a different joke instead of the yolo one.

enjoy the show, and was one of the 15%ers.

gl

Thanks David, much appreciate any feedback like this as I am noob and sometimes unaware of what I might be doing or saying

I actually tested the vid initially and thought it was too loud so I ended up turning the levels down. Watched it back today and the times that came off as mumbling where when I talked lower but I do need to slow my speech down a bit so the drug addicts (urubu ) of the world can follow better. I made a big effort to do this in the first pod but the second I forgot about it and ended up talking my normal million miles per hour too often. Sometimes I really have no ****ing idea what someone was doing in a hand, just happened to be a few of them but I the yolo hand, i will never stop using it. Glad you made it to the endddd


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The best part is obviously TheCleaner hand And this podcast makes me want to play PLO online and I can't imagine I'm the only one. America.
This is very much my master plan behind doing it I have actually gotten a much larger amount of messages on here and twitter/fb from people telling me this exact same thing than I would have anticipated. It makes me so happy
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:06 PM   #30
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Re: 2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts are out

scripts to hide tank-top? I guess 50% of the viewers leave after realizing he's actually wearing one of these on cam:
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:54 PM   #31
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Reading hand histories removes the element of surprise. If there's a hand viewer then we get to follow the action like its tv. I trust you can still get all the info out there.

It's also hard to read if you're watching on a small screen. That was my main issue. Is that a heart or a diamond? Aw screw it.

Making PLO exciting again. It's no coincidence I actually played yahoo PLO last night.
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Old 02-22-2014, 12:12 AM   #32
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Meh.. like deuces cracked videos. Takes and age to get to the point and is crap when it gets there..
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Old 02-22-2014, 02:37 AM   #33
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Re: 2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts are out

WE JUST REVIEWED FIFTY THOUSAND AND TWO US HANDS IN A MONTH
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Old 02-22-2014, 11:19 PM   #34
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Re: 2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts are out

how are you a pokerstars regular if oyu live in the US?

also agree with using a replayer instead of showing full hand history.
rather boring but id love to learn a bit more PLO so ill check back in a few episodes.

i know no ones asking for my advice but i think youd make a more compelling show if you had adamant opinions instead of just saying "thats fine whatever you could do either" on every step. mildly giggling at the one weird part and then saying "thats fine, whatever."

maybe it gets better i was too bored to continue.
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Old 02-23-2014, 12:11 AM   #35
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Re: 2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts are out

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how are you a pokerstars regular if oyu live in the US?

also agree with using a replayer instead of showing full hand history.
rather boring but id love to learn a bit more PLO so ill check back in a few episodes.

i know no ones asking for my advice but i think youd make a more compelling show if you had adamant opinions instead of just saying "thats fine whatever you could do either" on every step. mildly giggling at the one weird part and then saying "thats fine, whatever."

maybe it gets better i was too bored to continue.
I played on ps for 6-7 yearsish before coming back here, all of the regs are for the most part still the same and I have a fair amount of history with almost everyone

The first one I had more "adament" opinions on different things but I wanted to try to be less in depth I guess you could say about those same spots in the second one which came off more as "thats fine, whatever". I do think you are right though that I should be giving a bit more concrete statements just to make the things I say different (i think i will get better with this in time). My intention for it wasn't to be so people could learn/get better at PLO after watching this video, it is that people might become interested in learning more about PLO and then from that point seek out a site to play on or other material they could watch/read that would then help them learn how to play. So in those spots where I say you could do either one, it doesn't matter, I'm not trying to tell you "i think you should always do this because this so when you play do this " when really I don't think the decision chosen in the specific spot matters that much and both are fine. From the vantage point of someone who plays some PLO now at the small stakes on some level I actually think me making the statement it doesn't matter much what you do here is helping them learn though that in a similar spot making either decision could be good.

I think similar to the post a few above about deucescracked people are thinking this is a training video, it is not meant to be that. I think there will be some people who hear new concepts to them discussed and figure out a way to adapt it into there own approach but overall its more of a recap on hands played, who these players are, talking plo.

This is only my 2nd time doing it and I am at the micro stakes phase of it so far I expect many people to get bored at some point listening/looking at a fixed image of a HH on a screen while listening to me talk at some point in time, I know I'm not that entertaining. But some will enjoy it, enjoy hearing plo talked about, regs discussed and rage stories so they will stick around

And I actually did ask for your advice/feedback a couple times in the thread , I like hearing opinions like yours because it helps me think about how I can improve the way I come off to different kinds of people.


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I own the green one i used to wear it sometimes raging

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Old 02-23-2014, 11:45 AM   #36
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Re: 2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts are out

i like the vids alot but think itll get old unless he starts talking more strategy/doing something different....I understand he doesnt want to talk too much strat but it would def help to keep viewers in in the future imo
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Old 02-28-2014, 02:40 AM   #37
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Re: 2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts are out

new joeycast is out

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Old 02-28-2014, 03:57 AM   #38
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Re: 2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts are out

I think you got to have the unconverted HHS if you want to use a replayer. Babysweat seem committed so maybe he will pm them to you
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Old 02-28-2014, 12:31 PM   #39
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Re: 2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts are out

An invaluable source of information for me. Been waiting all week for this, TY.
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Old 02-28-2014, 12:33 PM   #40
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Re: 2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts are out

wawawawawiwa new joey podcast out? kinda more hyped for this then next episode of GoT lol
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Old 02-28-2014, 03:26 PM   #41
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Re: 2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts are out

Enjoyed Episode3 very much. Great to see you using Gifs.
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Old 02-28-2014, 05:37 PM   #42
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great stuff bdy!
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Old 03-01-2014, 12:52 PM   #43
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Re: 2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts are out

WP, please promise to do these for a long time.
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Old 03-01-2014, 01:00 PM   #44
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Re: 2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts are out

Amazing episode!

<3 the giffed hh's
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Old 03-01-2014, 02:18 PM   #45
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Re: 2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts are out

joey do you coach plo?
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Old 03-01-2014, 04:28 PM   #46
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Re: 2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts are out

The thing to remember is you can't please everyone. Some going to like some things, others won't like those things.

For me I actually like that there are not that many definite statements, as in truth most spots are up for debate. Poker is about thinking and he is running through some of his thoughts which is fine, there are always going to be people out there who want to be told what to do in every spot, like there are always definite answers and this is the way. I advise listening to what he says and come up with your own answers.

I like the zoom in but for me it's defo better when I can see the hole cards from the start and sometimes they were not in view. Not sure how others feel about this.

Overall a great job, keep em coming and keep it fun with humour. I wouldn't worry too much about not being serious enough i.e. too jokey or whatever. The humour and relaxed vibe was what kept me watching the first one and made me come back. It seems like your natural self is to keep it fun so I would suggest staying that way, it's not as if people are paying $$'s and have a right to tell you be otherwise.

Looking forward to the Doug-cast too!
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Old 03-02-2014, 02:29 PM   #47
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Re: 2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts are out

Subbed. Enjoyed the first one.
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Old 03-02-2014, 02:59 PM   #48
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Re: 2p2 legend ChicagoJoey PLO Podcasts are out

this is great from NL player perspective its great to here the thought process of a PLO crusher, keep em coming Joey
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Old 03-02-2014, 03:32 PM   #49
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Thanks alot guys for watching/subbing, glad you enjoyed the latest episode happy that you liked the GIF part

I've been thinking that most of the people that end up clicking on this thread will only watch a bit of the first one and never make it to the updates farther down in the thread so episode 1 will end up with a really high number views



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priv i'm not sure if I can agree with more hyped than GoT but

as long as people are enjoying them skjervoy I will continue to do them. It looks like I will be having a guest on one of my next ones in the form of Oddsen

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nope, i never have and don't intend to ever start coaching anything above .25/.50 unless I start becoming a losing player like most of the other coaches do
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Old 03-02-2014, 03:55 PM   #50
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nope, i never have and don't intend to ever start coaching anything above .25/.50 unless I start becoming a losing player like most of the other coaches do

oh no you diint !
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