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2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei 2+2 ex-mod cornell fiji (Steven Ware) stole 30k from Admo part drei

08-11-2008 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Pot Odds RAC
It

Wasn't

A

Loan
qft, is there any way a mod can put this in big bold letters at the start of the thread. i spent like an hour reading that last 1000 post thread, and there must have been 200 posts from people admonishing admo for loaning money when he did no such thing. people are dumb.
08-11-2008 , 06:33 PM
wisdom from the wise owl - will CF's sticky remain up in marketplace?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...d.php?t=152993

CF knows a lot about scams - I like the part about broken legs maybe he will have a chapter on scams in his new book
08-11-2008 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Admo
To repeat: I didn't start this thread, a moderator did.

I don't know why the moderators keep locking earlier threads to start new ones, but I assume the answer lies somewhere in between server load and advertising revenue.

I think it's because we can get the discussion a bit more on track and organized.
We also wanted to start a new thread that wasn't cluttered with that hideous poll at the top (which I couldn't figure out how to delete).

Anyway, kevmath suggested to me that we could take your next post as a starting point for a new thread and just lock the other one and I agreed it was a good idea and probably time for that. Nothing to do with servers or ads. Just us silly mods thinking we can keep this chaos slightly better organized I guess.
08-11-2008 , 06:40 PM
Dunno why the mods made another thread, gonna be filled with the same posts as the last time. So to continue with the trend, I'll repeat myself once more and be done with this whole thing.

I wont say what I do but it isn't hard to guess, but I've been trusted with more than $30k fronted to me. If I didn't return the money in the time given to me (never happened) I would have to answer to someone. Hopefully he'd give me a chance to make right based on my rep but I know someone who was fresh with no rep and got scared ****less. I didn't ask what happened but he payed his debt (a few grand) within a week and I didn't see him around anymore.

My point is, you aren't going to get paid back unless you strike the fear of God in this kid. Stop worrying about if he kills himself, it would not be your fault. Steve got himself into this, not you. I hope you've called his parents by now as I feel like that is your best route. Let them know of the suicidal threats and the immature sociopath behavior Steve has shown. You are a good person and obviously have a sense of compassion, no offense to you but nice people generally don't get what they want, even more so when it involves collecting.

I may be a terrible person or w/e but I would have very little concern right now regarding Steve unless it had to do with my 30k. Unless it pertained to him giving me that money nothing he did would affect me or make me change my plan (website/parents/etc.). I highly doubt you ever see the money, you've already shown Steven he is in control and is apparent he understands that by him disappearing. It's his game and it'll end how he wants it to.

This is my final post on the topic, but good luck Admo.
08-11-2008 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Admo

With that said, if anyone wants to buy any portion of his debt at 1:1, I'm obviously selling, providing you won't go kneecapping to collect.

I really think you need to stop posting things like this. It undermines your credibility as it opens up the possibity that you and steve are in cahoots. The same goes with offering action on whether he pays or not.
08-11-2008 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishLadChris
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^^^^^^why all the hostility Steven?
08-11-2008 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishLadChris
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Buh-bye now.
08-11-2008 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Admo
Steve Ware Update:

No news, and there probably won't be for a while. Steve has broken communication. In case he is truly in a dangerous mental state I'm still going to give him a few more days to get himself together before I begin the collection process.

--


(Obligatory Jackhigh Photochop... others are slackin )
08-11-2008 , 06:43 PM
such degingeracy.
gl Admo.
08-11-2008 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Pot Odds RAC
Buh-bye now.

yup. he's been banned for 1 day to cool off.
08-11-2008 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
^^^^^^why all the hostility Steven?

I know you're just trying to be amusing...but fwiw we haven't spotted any gimmick accounts of Steve's since the Michael Vick incident.
Speculating isn't really necessary since we're kind of keeping an eye on that.
And the joke is getting pretty tired really fast so maybe we could turn the page on that one perhaps?
08-11-2008 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
yup. he's been banned for 1 day to cool off.
Sorta figured you'd be on it.
08-11-2008 , 06:48 PM
I hope this is the last thread we ever have to read where a guy gives money to a guy he does not know and then bitches about getting ****ed. 2+2 is in the gutter and headed to the drain.
08-11-2008 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by George Rice
But if somehow I did find myself owing a large sum, I wouldn't be too happy with being dragged over the coals the way he's been. All of this public humiliation and ridicule would seem to me worth something. Maybe I would consider it worth $30K and that you've forfeited the opportunity to be paid back, even though I initially had the intent to repay the debt fully. This would be especially true if $30K was a very large sum to me and hard to come up with.

You might not want to admit it, but I suspect that you know that by making a public spectacle of this (especially with that web site), you have taken the additional risk of hardening Mr. Ware against you. In fact, I suspect that you're trying to get $30K worth of revenge out of it and don't really expect to get any of your money back.

This is just outright silly. Admo hasn't forfeited anything at all. Anyone callous enough, and degen enough, and with enough of a thieving heart to steal $30k doesn't get the additional right not to be publicly humiliated. It's obvious Stephen has absolutely zero intent to repay the money he stole (not borrowed, but stole), and likely never had the intent in the first place. That lack of intent doesn't become so just because he gets publicly called out.

Your logic is false.

I suggest that Admo get a lien put on asap, so that if Cornell Fiji does off himself, maybe there will be a life insurance policy out there somewhere that the lien could be applied to. Given the complete lack of intent to actually pay in the meantime, that may be the only way Admo sees any of his funds returned.
08-11-2008 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pot Odds RAC
It

Wasn't

A

Loan
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And I realize this situation is different on its face. But in reality, money was given to a gambler and the obvious risk was realized.
It

doesn't

matter

whether it was intended as a loan. He sent someone money and got burnt. He trusted someone he barely knew but shouldn't have. The only difference is that Admo can probably file criminal charges of fraud. But then he might have to answer questions about the money he'd rather not.
08-11-2008 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mondogarage

Your logic is false.
This is not a logic problem.

People don't always act logically when they're pissed off or otherwise emotional. Assuming they do is illogical.
08-11-2008 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerBob
I hope this is the last thread we ever have to read where a guy gives money to a guy he does not know and then bitches about getting ****ed. 2+2 is in the gutter and headed to the drain.
I almost second that motion. However this is the gossip forum, so I guess a certain amount of this sort of thing is okay if it stays here.
08-11-2008 , 07:03 PM
just out of curiosity, wasnt he an hsnl mod?
How was he appointed mod of a strat forum if he was so bad at pokers like its stated here?
08-11-2008 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by orlov
How was he appointed mod of a strat forum if he was so bad at pokers like its stated here?

ummmm.....
08-11-2008 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by George Rice
This is not a logic problem.

People don't always act logically when they're pissed off or otherwise emotional. Assuming they do is illogical.
I understand that. However, I also understand that stepping light on the carpet just to spare his feelings, guilt and public humiliation isn't the least bit +EV. There's a very good chance Admo never gets a penny of his money back, but if he does, it's much more likely to happen because of the public pressure than because of the lack thereof.

I'm certain there's probably nothing Cornell Fiji would love more than for his actions to have never seen the light of day, in that it would be easier for him to string Admo along even further, and to even potentially pull the same stunt on someone else.
08-11-2008 , 07:12 PM
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I hope this is the last thread we ever have to read where a guy gives money to a guy he does not know and then bitches about getting ****ed. 2+2 is in the gutter and headed to the drain.
[x] news
[x] view
[x] gossip

trifecta in play imo
08-11-2008 , 07:22 PM
this thread is in desperate need of more photoshops
08-11-2008 , 08:06 PM
I think this should be called "Views on News & Gossip".
08-11-2008 , 08:09 PM
I transferred like .18 to Daniel Negreanu so I can give at least 1/3 of that to CF
08-11-2008 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by George Rice
It

doesn't

matter

.

YES


IT


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