Mason won some bracelets at wsop back in the day no?

I would love to supply an answer. But I have been advised by my attorney to not comment for a fear of slanderous accusations by certain persons.... DUCY?

(smh)

I find it interesting while reading this thread that most of the people who criticized Mason are now banned. Perhaps that is part of the reason why some people hate him?

Yeah, because if you dig up other 2 year old threads, you never see any banned posters in there.

I don't find it interesting at all, and neither should you. Now stop asking questions!

I find it interesting you didn't notice that the thread is 2 years old, they could be banned for other reasons.

Well, there was the time he banned Cyrus for being too knowledgeable and articulate in debating the Middle East. He called common, well evidenced arguments "twisting" or something like that. Banned for "twisting." Now there would be a website-destroying standard.

ManWgotHtheAlastTwordEforVmoreEthanRtwo years. Respect.

He's arrogant and an egoist, those are the main reasons. I can respect that, but it doesn't mean I want to be friends.

I think most of it is tied to that, there is nothing he has really done bad to anyone that I know of. He's just your basic nit who doesn't see very far out of the field he's playing on. It has served him well, so there is no use arguing his winning strategy.

I put him in the same class as a Barry Tannenbaum or Nolan Dalla, always grumpy deep down about something, but good to his friends.

He has a low tolerance for those that don't meet commitments, provide sub-standard material, screw him, or twist the truth.

Pretty good qualities for the position he is in but will make a lot of enemies in an industry of people that want to work on their own schedule or produce sub-standard work.

Mason has developed a pretty thick skin for what goes on in here.

I can add that having an insider's access, I have seen Mason do more for the betterment of the industry than just about anyone else, even if it is at his immediate financial determent. He has a very good big picture view. This was one of the first sites to drop UB/AP advertising at a time when UB was very willing to continue or even up their ad budget. This when other big sites continued taking their money and sign up players.

Respect ^^^

To expand on that, maybe its the fact he is a man of integrity working in an industry that has very little

I know it is two years old, thats why I find it interesting.

He needs to cultivate a certain image so he lets this thread stand and doesn't delete posts and ban people for hating on him ITT. But they all got banned eventually, for 'other reasons' no doubt.

^^^Nice last post.

Keep up. I wont get banned until there is plausible deniability that I was banned for my posts ITT.

FYP, 2+2 was one of the first sites to be affected by slow UB affiliate payments, the scandal only made it easy to drop them. If you look at most of the affiliate sites, they ranked them low even though they offered on paper much higher CPA and revenue shares, and this was before superuser news broke. Nobody really liked dealing with them ever since UB2 days. I'm not saying 2+2 doesn't vet advertisers however.

The question presupposes a fact which is not in evidence.

There are some people who are genuinely hated in the poker industry. But I doubt that he would make the list.

Why is Howard Lederer so hated in the poker industry?

Why is Ray Bitar so hated in the poker industry?

Why is Russ Hamilton so hated in the poker industry?

Why is Phil Hellmuth so hated in the poker industry?

Why is Dutch Boyd so hated in the poker industry?

etc.

He also has a low tolerance for communist propaganda in site logos.

All of us freedom-loving Americans thank Mason for blackmailing the PPA into removing the communist imagery from their logo, especially right after Black Friday when they were bored and didn't have anything else to do.

2+2 never accepted any affiliate advertising from UB.


MM

Who is Mason Malmuth?

A guy who employs attorneys who frequently tell him to STFU?

Until recently it was not widely accepted that poker was in the same league as chess, backgammon, bridge, and scrabble. People erroneously assumed that since poker skill was partly psychological it was not that important to be good at the more technical aspects. This led to publications, both books and magazines, to write stuff that had a lot of logically or mathematically flawed material. And the people in charge of those publications were not smart enough to realizethat they were publishing stuff written by those who might be winners, but who were sometimes confused as to why they won. (Those publishers are still dumb. But since a much larger percentage of winners approach the game properly, it is now much more likely that the articles and books written by winners are largely accurate.)

Since Mason and I were not bashful about pointing out the errors in other writings it is not suprising that the well meaning publishers who were incapable of finding the flaws in thier material would resent us. Not saying that this is the only reason they don't like us. But I guarantee it is the main one.

They were a regular advertiser, then?

Poker will never be in the same league as chess. Please give that analogy
a rest.

It is peculiar that it appears only the authors that publish with 2 + 2,
are accurate/not "flawed" via the sites reviews. Wonder what the odds of
that being the source of some hard feelings might be?

No and I was slightly mistaken. We had ads from affiliates that pimped UB. Never any direct ads or ads where 2p2 was the affiliate. At some point we asked the affiliates to drop UB from their 2p2 ads.

Going by memory, I don't believe UB or any company related to them ever advertised directly with us.

MM