no. its in des moines...tk

[ ] Orwell is hackneyed drivel.
[X] "Pissing in the wind" is hackneyed drivel.

This thread is located in "Two Plus Two Poker Forums"; if you are stating that MM should be able to block/edit/ban people and their statements with which he is not agreeable simply based on the fact that he is the owner of the site, then the title of this thread's location is completely misleading.

fo·rum/ˈfôrəm/Noun: 1.A: meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged. B: A public meeting place for open discussion

If the 2+2 forums is a place for private discourse or a propaganda conduit of some sort, the contents of which are completely controlled by the owner, then the it shouldn't be called a forum, it should be called a blog with guest writers.

Does anybody here speak SIMPSONS?

Are you trying to tell us that this forum is The Android's Dungeon and Mason Malmuth is Comic Book Guy?

If so, can we have photos of his beloved napping blissfully in the many folds of his Spiderman t-shirt?

@frzn assets

You can call it whatever you like. Doesn't change reality. This is a private moderated forum which requires membership and agreement with the terms and conditions. Membership may be terminated at the discretion of the ownership or their assigns. This also includes control of the content.

Very true.....but i would ship $5 on stars to anyone who can provide

More likely to find him snuggling in...

Exactly.

...and if you question the owner's management style, even though it does not break the membership agreement's terms and conditions, you will be banned because, like you say, the owner controls all the content, like a blog.

Thank you for making my point for me.

Are you banned? Thank you for making a point.

Oh sure. After he goes to sleep tonight he's gonna come back.....as a Pod poster.

No, but HockeyStick was.

Thank you for making my point.

Here's a good point, if you don't like the way things are run here, leave.

With people like you, who abandon ship the second something goes wrong, not much social evolution would've taken place for our species.

"You don't like concentration camps? Just gtfo, then"


EDIT: For the mentally challenged, I'm not saying that 2+2 is run like a concentration camp, but the analogy stands in the sense that the "abandon and leave instead of pushing for change" mindset characteristic of the weak-minded and cowardly applies similarly in this type of situation, no matter how serious or benign.

I think this thread should be moved to ATF because it is becoming more about the forum and less about Mason.

Why does this place need to evolve? In the greater scheme of things, it is not that important of a location.

If you're speaking to me then you obviously have me confused with someone else. I've been around here 8 years and have been very vocal about things I'd like to see change for the betterment of this community.

The difference is I make my suggestions without taking pot shots at people and address the issues I would like to see changed in a clear and succinct fashion. If you think those comments you're addressing are at all constructive and not cheap shots than I doubt very seriously you're qualified to comment on them at all.

The integrity and quality of the greater scheme of things depends on the integrity and quality of the smaller parts it's comprised of.

But what's hilarious about this is that every time this kind of thing comes up, on any forum, the owners/mods/whoever always start with the "we don't muzzle anyone/we are all about free discussion and constructive criticism etc etc" line, convincing themselves that they're all about logical, objective, fair discussion.

Then, the normal cycle begins where holes get punched in that, people get flustered and the heavy handedness starts, while being defended by "so and so broke the rules/went over the line/etc".

The next stage is that it gets pointed out that these "rules enforcements" are anything but objective and fair, and then finally the "yeah well it's a private forum, we can do what we want, if you don't like it, leave" comes out.

That's great and all, but it'd be nice if people would just say that from the start instead of trying to pretend that the situation is anything else.

Then you should choose your words more wisely because your earlier post expressed anything but what you just wrote.

Good Point and pretty much what I was alluding to in my last post.

No, I meant exactly what I said, you're just confusing constructive criticism with pot shots and arrogance.

oh yeah? well enjoy your 3 day vacation mister hughes...............if you happen to be on an actual vacation that is.

If evolution is important, it has to be a two way street. We cannot ask the owners to do better while we wallow in the mud.

how are things on sesame street. gl embracing the future.

Nothing will happen now because Johnny has been even more specific as to who he was insulting in the past and nothing happened.

Please dumb it down for us in simple Star Trek-ese

For those of you that know the man. Would Mason Malmuth rather spend an hour proving himself right in a poker argument or would he prefer an hour on the holodeck with Seven of Nine?