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Who is RaiseOnce on PokerStars? Who is RaiseOnce on PokerStars?

01-05-2012 , 12:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SneakySteve
This hand is from 2008.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/38...n5-wtf-160334/
Fake Love888 = Patrik
str8flushin5 = Benyamine
Hold_emNL = Dwan
where's the proof?
01-05-2012 , 03:36 PM
Cliffs of fake love:

- Plays 200/400 PLO
- plays well, regs sit out vs him, notably Zig will always sit out vs him, if they're 3 handed with someone else they play a bit when the 3rd person leaves then sit out (PA is friends with and has staked/stakes Zig)
- Plays 1k-2k 2-7 TD HU vs oogee
- Doesn't usually play any more than ~3 tables.
- His account's result in the 2007 WCOOP is the same as PA wrote about in his blog - Stopped playing on Stars in 2007 and just recently returned. The blog dates and sharkscope dates match up
- Oogee told another player in chat that Fake love is PA
- hasu asked in HS thread who Fake love is, when PA was suggested, he said yeah that makes sense
- hasu then later said 'hey patrik' to him in chat, no reply
- Played vs Jesuslebtnot (hasu/Kagome Kagome/IhateJuice) Heads-up 1k-2k Limit Hold'em
- PLO + HU 2-7 TD against the guy considered the best + HU Limit Hold'em against the guy considered the best (and no NLHE) is a very unique set of games
- Is from Monaco
- Allegedly PA made a very old training vid for pokernews strategy showing him playing on the acct. They and Pnews strategy no longer exist publically afaik. I found his vids on a very private torrent tracker but it had no seeds so i couldn't download

But no, obviously there will never be 100% proof unless he himself admits it
01-05-2012 , 03:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jspill
Cliffs of fake love:

- Plays 200/400 PLO
- plays well, regs sit out vs him, notably Zig will always sit out vs him, if they're 3 handed with someone else they play a bit when the 3rd person leaves then sit out (PA is friends with and has staked/stakes Zig)
- Plays 1k-2k 2-7 TD HU vs oogee
- Doesn't usually play any more than ~3 tables.
- His account's result in the 2007 WCOOP is the same as PA wrote about in his blog - Stopped playing on Stars in 2007 and just recently returned. The blog dates and sharkscope dates match up
- Oogee told another player in chat that Fake love is PA
- hasu asked in HS thread who Fake love is, when PA was suggested, he said yeah that makes sense
- hasu then later said 'hey patrik' to him in chat, no reply
- Played vs Jesuslebtnot (hasu/Kagome Kagome/IhateJuice) Heads-up 1k-2k Limit Hold'em
- PLO + HU 2-7 TD against the guy considered the best + HU Limit Hold'em against the guy considered the best (and no NLHE) is a very unique set of games
- Is from Monaco
- Allegedly PA made a very old training vid for pokernews strategy showing him playing on the acct. They and Pnews strategy no longer exist publically afaik. I found his vids on a very private torrent tracker but it had no seeds so i couldn't download

But no, obviously there will never be 100% proof unless he himself admits it
Just want to say thanks for providing the breakdown. Who is oogee?
01-05-2012 , 03:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jspill
Cliffs of fake love:

- Plays 200/400 PLO
- plays well, regs sit out vs him, notably Zig will always sit out vs him, if they're 3 handed with someone else they play a bit when the 3rd person leaves then sit out (PA is friends with and has staked/stakes Zig)
What? PA and Zig have always battled a lot.
01-05-2012 , 03:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by UCBananaboy
Just want to say thanks for providing the breakdown. Who is oogee?
eugene yanayt, fishosaurusrex on FTP http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...-oogee-964629/. Enon, long time 2+2er who used to play high stakes mixed games, confirms oogee = one of the best 2-7 players

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimpo
What? PA and Zig have always battled a lot.
on stars Ilari and Fake love have been sitting out vs each other lately at 200/400. from what i've seen.

Zig has just recovered in late 2011 from a huge downswing prior to that, and may not want to play PA right now. especially if he was staked by PA during his upswing and so had to give a lot of it back

Quote:
Ilari was the biggest winner on Pokerstars in 2011, and accounting for losses at FTP (-$623k on his Ziigmund account) had a profit of about $1.56 million overall


Ilari has become a little bit less reckless of late compared to the FTP days, even to the point where skjervoy called him a 'nit'. Not playing PA (if it is him, he'd most likely be aware) may be a symptom of that. He still has played Isildur in long messy HU matches on stars but that may be specifically for the spewy gambling style they both have HU against each other

Obv I'm speculating a lot and the sit out thing you quoted is the least remarkable part of all the 'evidence', but there it is

Last edited by jspill; 01-05-2012 at 04:22 PM.
01-05-2012 , 05:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jspill
Cliffs of fake love:

- Plays 200/400 PLO
- plays well, regs sit out vs him, notably Zig will always sit out vs him, if they're 3 handed with someone else they play a bit when the 3rd person leaves then sit out (PA is friends with and has staked/stakes Zig)
- Plays 1k-2k 2-7 TD HU vs oogee
- Doesn't usually play any more than ~3 tables.
- His account's result in the 2007 WCOOP is the same as PA wrote about in his blog - Stopped playing on Stars in 2007 and just recently returned. The blog dates and sharkscope dates match up
- Oogee told another player in chat that Fake love is PA
- hasu asked in HS thread who Fake love is, when PA was suggested, he said yeah that makes sense
- hasu then later said 'hey patrik' to him in chat, no reply
- Played vs Jesuslebtnot (hasu/Kagome Kagome/IhateJuice) Heads-up 1k-2k Limit Hold'em
- PLO + HU 2-7 TD against the guy considered the best + HU Limit Hold'em against the guy considered the best (and no NLHE) is a very unique set of games
- Is from Monaco
- Allegedly PA made a very old training vid for pokernews strategy showing him playing on the acct. They and Pnews strategy no longer exist publically afaik. I found his vids on a very private torrent tracker but it had no seeds so i couldn't download

But no, obviously there will never be 100% proof unless he himself admits it
Lol that is proof enough....
01-05-2012 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.mmmKay


I've seen this guy show up alot but i still don't know which thread he comes from.
Can someone please enlighten me?
its really well worth reading all the thread from the start or it'll spoil itfor u. its called something similar to"who is cyril the french guy at bellagio or sth like that". its few years old not sure how many.

i read it at my mam's house one day and then showed her we both thought it was really good laugh.
01-05-2012 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MauvaisOeil
oops shouldve read next line at least till posting
01-05-2012 , 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by biggy333
its really well worth reading all the thread from the start or it'll spoil itfor u. its called something similar to"who is cyril the french guy at bellagio or sth like that". its few years old not sure how many.

i read it at my mam's house one day and then showed her we both thought it was really good laugh.
I just went back to the old thread. That was the golden age of 2+2.
I miss it.
01-06-2012 , 01:05 AM
RaiseOnce is now at PLO table... and he's from Mexico
but i saw that he was playing from Monako a couple of weeks ago...
weird
01-06-2012 , 02:14 AM
¿Qué no?

01-06-2012 , 03:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jspill

Zig has just recovered in late 2011 from a huge downswing prior to that, and may not want to play PA right now. especially if he was staked by PA during his upswing and so had to give a lot of it back
I may be mistaken, but I thought Zig said PA has never staked him.
01-06-2012 , 05:46 AM
thanks to chinz:

Quote:
Originally Posted by chinz
“Patrik on ollut erittäin tärkeä ihminen elämässäni. Hän on auttanut minua paljon, kun esimerkiksi tilit ovat näyttäneet nollaa.”

=

"Patrik has been a really important person in my life. He has helped me a lot, for example when my account balances have been zero."

Doesn't necessarily say he has staked him, but at least loaned money or helped monetarily.
so perhaps something like that rather than a formal staking agreement with a contract etc.
01-06-2012 , 09:46 AM
Currently playing horse vs GVOZDIKA55 and sitting at a 400K stack. Have seen GVOZDIKA55 reloading a couple of times.
01-06-2012 , 01:30 PM
RaiseOnce seems to have all the indications of Phil Ivey's account:

Its registered in Mexico and there is proof that he has a holiday home in Cabo - watch Poker After Dark PLO cash game and you will hear Dwan asking Antonius about it.
He sits at the highest stakes for limit hold'em, PLO, 2-7 triple draw, 8 game mix, and HORSE - all the games which Ivey used to play on Full Tilt.
He doesn't have auto reload which I don't think he did on Full Tilt as well.
He has fixed stop losses and quits the game as soon as he hits that amount.
He is also willing to play anyone even if they are a specialist at the game like jama-dharma at limit or MrSweets28 at PLO which is a sign of Phil Ivey because he will play anyone.
He doesn't show his hole cards when all-in which is something you would expect Phil Ivey to do.
He plays short sessions and doesn't multi-table in a sense so rules out a lot of the online specialists and this is what Ivey used to do on Full Tilt.
Finally, there is evidence on twoplustwo that Phil Ivey on Full Tilt disconnected the same time as RaiseOnce on Stars in the past.

I believe that there are enough reasons to assume RaiseOnce is Phil Ivey's account.
01-06-2012 , 01:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cthrilla
I may be mistaken, but I thought Zig said PA has never staked him.
I believe you are mistaken because PA has certainly said that he has staked Ziggy in the past.
01-06-2012 , 01:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dp92
RaiseOnce seems to have all the indications of Phil Ivey's account:

Its registered in Mexico and there is proof that he has a holiday home in Cabo - watch Poker After Dark PLO cash game and you will hear Dwan asking Antonius about it.
He sits at the highest stakes for limit hold'em, PLO, 2-7 triple draw, 8 game mix, and HORSE - all the games which Ivey used to play on Full Tilt.
He doesn't have auto reload which I don't think he did on Full Tilt as well.
He has fixed stop losses and quits the game as soon as he hits that amount.
He is also willing to play anyone even if they are a specialist at the game like jama-dharma at limit or MrSweets28 at PLO which is a sign of Phil Ivey because he will play anyone.
He doesn't show his hole cards when all-in which is something you would expect Phil Ivey to do.
He plays short sessions and doesn't multi-table in a sense so rules out a lot of the online specialists and this is what Ivey used to do on Full Tilt.
Finally, there is evidence on twoplustwo that Phil Ivey on Full Tilt disconnected the same time as RaiseOnce on Stars in the past.

I believe that there are enough reasons to assume RaiseOnce is Phil Ivey's account.
+ very similar stats.
01-06-2012 , 01:40 PM
everyone knew, that isildur1 was viktor bloom and everyone knows now, that raiseonce is phil and fake love is patrik
01-06-2012 , 01:41 PM
Ivey's Mexico pad, posted about in other threads

01-06-2012 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by aboogie
Can someone confirm this and how they verified its ivey?
01-06-2012 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by brrrap!
Confirmed?
01-06-2012 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ben wb
+ very similar stats.
wow thats insane, heads up ivey folds his BB to a button open less than 30% of the time
01-06-2012 , 07:55 PM
he's back online playing oogee again
01-06-2012 , 07:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by prahsk87
wow thats insane, heads up ivey folds his BB to a button open less than 30% of the time
Could that be proof its not him?
Lmao
01-06-2012 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by aboogie
Could that be proof its not him?
Lmao
Raiseonce's stats are on the left, Ivey's are on the right. They defend almost exactly the same amount.

      
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