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What do you think about Phil Hellmuth as a coach? What do you think about Phil Hellmuth as a coach?

10-21-2015 , 03:47 AM
The Italian November Nine Federico Butteroni will be coached by Poker Brat for Main WSOP's final table

Federico said Hellmuth "is unique for his ability on reading the opponents. He'll help me with his advices and with the charge he can transfer me with his charisma"

What do you think about his choice and of Hellmuth coach?
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10-21-2015 , 03:54 AM
A little white magic never hurt anyone
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10-21-2015 , 04:02 AM
Think last time Hellmuth charged 15 per cent of winnings for his coaching to a November niner, just think the bloke is a chancer to be honest. Although his results are great, there are alot cheaper coaches out there, that would do just as good a job if not better.
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10-21-2015 , 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by maverick6972
Think last time Hellmuth charged 15 per cent of winnings for his coaching to a November niner.
No way this is true is it? Even for the GOAT, this seems like a high price.
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10-21-2015 , 04:30 AM
could be great dependent on the type of player as long as it isnt at some absurd rate which i dont doubt it is, if so as has already been said 1 can easily find real good coaching elsewhere for much cheaper. dont get why november niners make it public about whos coaching them before the final table
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10-21-2015 , 04:43 AM
He coached the Golden State Warriors to a ring so he is legit.
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10-21-2015 , 05:03 AM
Definitely the man I'd be picking. Worth 50% imo

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10-21-2015 , 05:43 AM
I am NOT a phil hater. I enjoy his antics and his WSOP tourney results speak for themselves (num of WSOP Cashes, % making FT after cashing, etc etc). So for large tournament fields he is doing something right.

But, the camera attention whoring during WSOP/ ESPN taping is sort of pathetic.

The bit where he broke into Chad Powers interview and ensuing comments were cringe worthy,

p.s. Kroon play was so terribad on several hands they showed that I assume he was not actually listening to everything phil was telling him to do.
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10-21-2015 , 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by PTLou
I am NOT a phil hater. I enjoy his antics and his WSOP tourney results speak for themselves (num of WSOP Cashes, % making FT after cashing, etc etc). So for large tournament fields he is doing something right.

But, the camera attention whoring during WSOP/ ESPN taping is sort of pathetic.

The bit where he broke into Chad Powers interview and ensuing comments were cringe worthy,

p.s. Kroon play was so terribad on several hands they showed that I assume he was not actually listening to everything phil was telling him to do.
I am a phil hater. The guy is a grade A knob.

It's not a large field tournament it's a final table apart from the topic of camera time which Phil has to be one of the foremost experts on especially if the camera time involves being a dick there are plenty of people more qualified to give expert advice on final tables..

He was probably doing exactly what phil told him to do
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10-21-2015 , 05:54 AM
Can you even teach white magic?
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10-21-2015 , 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PTLou
I am NOT a phil hater. I enjoy his antics and his WSOP tourney results speak for themselves (num of WSOP Cashes, % making FT after cashing, etc etc). So for large tournament fields he is doing something right.

But, the camera attention whoring during WSOP/ ESPN taping is sort of pathetic.

The bit where he broke into Chad Powers interview and ensuing comments were cringe worthy,

p.s. Kroon play was so terribad on several hands they showed that I assume he was not actually listening to everything phil was telling him to do.
I like this post I can agree with everything you posted. That Kroon guy was mr. spew.... I hated the was Kroon was playing every hand I saw him play I was wondering wtf he was thinking.
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10-21-2015 , 06:33 AM
His statement thing was a joke. He is making it about him and trying to get himself in the nov 9. How was Phil allowed to be inside the ropes during the wsop while everyone had to rail outside of it? Why doesn't anyone say anything to the floor? I didn't hear what he said during the power interview but I didn't notice it. When are these people going to tell him to stfu and leave them alone. If Phil came up to me while I'm doing an interview on day 6 I would have told him to **** off.

I don't buy into the idea that him or negraneu are good for poker and bring in more players/viewers. I'd love to see numbers that prove it. They are ****ing annoying as hell and make any program unwatchable.
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10-21-2015 , 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Cantrell
Can you even teach white magic?
No but u can sell it..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpinWDvWHUI
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10-21-2015 , 07:29 AM
I'm just rewatching the 2009 ME where Hellmuth is also coaching some guy. Wouldn't be my first or even top 20 choice, but to each their own, right?

And yeah Kroon was ****ing awful, just bet bet bet and pray they fold
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10-21-2015 , 07:39 AM
Yea. Helmuth would make a great coach. I do love the smell of bitter envy in the morning. Thanks to the tards above :-)
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10-21-2015 , 08:08 AM
Phil is to poker as what ron jeremy is to porn but hey they both get it in when it counts.
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10-21-2015 , 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
Phil is to poker as what ron jeremy is to porn but hey they both get it in when it counts.
"Hedge Hog" = "Edge Hog"
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10-21-2015 , 10:29 AM
i thought it was funny as he jumped in on powers interview commenting how they were msg each other at 5am that morning.

if power busts day3 hellmuth prob doesn't even acknowledge him in the hallway.
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10-21-2015 , 10:30 AM
I don't think that much of what has enabled Phil Hellmuth to perform as he has in large MTTs can be taught. And I think that what could possibly be taught would be pretty hard to teach and learn. And his fundamentals can be pretty bad.

And if this is correct:

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Originally Posted by maverick6972
Think last time Hellmuth charged 15 per cent of winnings for his coaching to a November niner [redacted text]
then he is charging a lot of money.

A $1,000,000 win that would have been say $600,000 after taxes becomes $450,000 after taxes and paying Hellmuth. And the absolute amount that you're paying him increases as the prize won increases.



So ... I dunno about the choice.
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10-21-2015 , 10:36 AM
Is it actually confirmed that he has/is charging 15%.

Yes there is a big difference with having some coaching and the difference between 9th and subsequent places but this figure seems ridiculous
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10-21-2015 , 11:08 AM
It's not as easy as you think for PH to teach someone to be as big a douchebag as he is.
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10-21-2015 , 11:15 AM
I found Kroon's "What Would Phil Do" t-shirt ironic, as about every hand of his that made TV was some spew-tard line that Hellmuth would have never taken.
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10-21-2015 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Bayes
I found Kroon's "What Would Phil Do" t-shirt ironic, as about every hand of his that made TV was some spew-tard line that Hellmuth would have never taken.
lol i totally noticed this aswell.

shirt shoulda said what would gus hanson do
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10-21-2015 , 11:24 AM
Meh, theres worse options for a coach imo
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10-21-2015 , 11:53 AM
He is probably better off with no coach than Phil even if it were for free.
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