in 4 jungleman hu play money challenge (unless amaya has banned play money hu bc its predatory after all).

In all seriousness though, is it possible or even likely that the highest stakes play money regulars are, in fact, better than 1c/2c regulars?

Czar, assuming you are a 1c/2c player, you really need to challenge Fedor Holz to a 10,000 hand match. You will need to bring your entire BR though as I expect you will get no interest from Holz for the $48.72 in your Stars account. Can you spare about $100,000 to help us answer the question you posed?

Not even reading this thread - how is this not locked?

Nevermind - I read it. I guess it kinda makes sense, like hearthstone/chess/video game players playing for fun or very little money. The only reason this take is reasonable is the online poker ban in the US - it's conceivable some talented guys have reached the top of play money without transitioning to real money because there is nowhere to play.

i can say for sure the high stakes play money players are better than the 1c/2c players.

U cant say that... cuz its not real money. Its incomparable period. THEORATICALLY, sure, they mayb be better. But that doesnt say anything.

In b4 play money busto

All I can think of is the thread in the BQ forum where someone was asking if he was running bad because he was of the top 10 winners at play money but was getting crushed at 5nl.

The one thing I really want to know is this : is there somewhere in the internet play money 2+2 w/ bbv?

I used to play midstakes playmoney, but the games got too tough so I unfortunately had to move to real money games. The level of aggression was unreal at the playmoney tables: 40% 3bet, 90% 4 bet, 75% VPIP, 0% fold to cbet etc. How can anyone beat that? Playmoney poker is dead.

I think jungleman is a play money player. I saw him play GPL once


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"If you don't play $5/10NL at least you are looked down upon and considered bad. That's it. It's not really debateable."

Not entirely accurate. If you don't generate revenue, you are not considered at all until you begin to do so. A dollar of rake or tournament fees is a dollar of revenue regardless of the stakes from which it is generated. Similarly,a dollar paid to a site for $XXX,XXX of play money is also a dollar of revenue.

What you stated exemplifies a narcissism of small differences, the basis for most posts in NVG.

1) OP is probably being serious, but his claims is laughable except possibly comparing "nosebleed" pm players to the lowest micro stakes players.

2) It is obvious that most of the people laughing at him have never played a significant amount of play money. There is an assumption that every hand goes to showdown because lol why fold it's play money? This is definitely not true, but you don't see normal poker behavior until you get above the play stakes that you can buy into with the free chips they give you. I play real cash NLHE and PLO on a U.S. facing site, but if I want to find action at 2-7 or stud8 etc. my only option is play money.

People do fold to c bets or three bets at play money. In fact, I see more preflop folds from the big blind in play money LHE than live cash $8/$16 LHE. But once again, only at stakes where you had to win (or now buy) your bankroll.

I'd love to see a previously exclusive pm player up against a real money lineup (playing for real money obviously with his own money), but that's never going to happen. If it did, anywhere above 5c/10c, I say the pm player gets wrecked.

As a high-stakes mixed game reg on the play money sites, I would like to point out that my regular buy-in is equal to, if not greater than, a twenty-five cent / fifty-cent stack.

The only difference is I can't cash out.

A bit out of topic, and I don't know how you feel about it, but Winning runs at least one 1/2 Stud8 game 24/7.

Do they have HORSE or 8-game, or any traffic if they do?

No, just PLO, O8, Stud and Stud8 Cash games. They don't offer Razz Cash games or Stud tournaments either.

i like to play play money just so i can see what it was like to come up as dwan , krantz, and isildur ect. did. 3k into a barbie dream home like its nothing.

wtf, no wonder i lost at GPL, its because it wasnt for money! ***, i probably shouldnt play more of those gpl matches, or some of those guys will figure me out and play for real

This made me LOL

Jungleman was the only reason I watched GPL. You never knew what he would do. The words, action, thoughts, and poker that JM brings is pure gold.

I'm a play money millionaire. That has got to tell you something. Real money I'm barely a winner at the lowest-second lowest levels (never reloading though, so far)

Sadly my foremost experience of play money is to be abused in chat when playing a winning style. The average level of play was extremely bad, fearing the day I might have to return if not winning at real money anymore. Will have to turn off chat, to say the least.

Yeah, that has been my experience too, what's up with that? They are playing for fake money but they get so stressed out you'd think they are playing for their rent month after month.

I honestly would never think that real money Low stakes players would be Chill and personable in comparison.

do long waitlists or seating scripts exist in the play money lobby? bumhunting, etc?

only experience i had in play money games was watching chicago joeys play money prop bet and the highest stakes play money guys was punting pre 300bb-s preflop with trash hands, so theres nothing to consider if they are better than 1c/2c regulars or not.

grinded my ftp account to 5 billion play chips. played the main event this summer. busted late day 3 right before the money. it's all the same game.

Did they play as bad in the ME? Count on me next year.

But maybe not. Should be a real life multimillionaire to be rolled. And maybe a better player too, in spite of your post.