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05-21-2016 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ch4nc305
If you read thru the orginal post I made my backer cleared that I paid off every penny that was owed I ate every cent I was robbed for. Like I said instead of making wild accusations about some one you don't know your more then welcome to ask around wpbkc or isle or anywhere in south florida I'm well known and don't owe anyone or having any backing or degen issues. Hard to make up a robbery when I have police reports and the police have witnesses If you'd like any of that information I'll glady post it. You can also talk to robbery detective at west palm beach sherif office he can confirm my story as he saw the tape.
dont care but made it public sooo some of this story is sorta, wow

and coming from playing only in Atlantic City and then to Florida. I see the differences and when first got here and saw the "5/10 $100 max (State Law $100 MAX (lol)" spread all over the State of Florida bc of the State law. I knew this place was different then Atlantic City. They would actually spread 5/10 Stakes but scam Cap players with only a $100 bi. Made it a pure gamble, for years too. That is the wackest logic ever. Skinning the littlest players by forcing it to be a pure gamble. Rake it in.

Raise stakes make it MAX gamble, then minimize the buy in level to make a sure and pure GAMBOL... pffft. what) so they husled avg. players for years trying to rake the stupid coffers in Florida, while skinning the LITTLE players.

(and the lol Max buy of $100 a 5/10 law was great)

I did know Florida is wacked with the whole poker gambling thing just not that crazy. And the Seminoles being the only ones to run the game in Florida is literally strangle holding players. And really this States real potential. South Florida, Key Biscayne, West Palm Beach Casinos would make this State much more lucrative. Then maybe the little players would get comps for just playing poker in Florida. Actually or even just save the $1 entry fee. LOL husling the State of Florida. Do not like sharing the competition it seems and bigger casino base where theirs rooms for players more accommodations is the answer. Instead of rando players walking out of half secured at these sketchy dawgtrack/pari-mutuels.

Whats also weird in Florida you have Sheriffs in the ROOM, in Atlantic City, even Vegas its like Disney World in a sense. Security and they arent the same presence as the avg. Police Officer and it actually works. Florida you have SHERIFFS sitting in the game, slide over one table if the action gets good etc... another odd bit about compared to other places.


Wish you the best OP sounds gl
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05-21-2016 , 02:57 AM
the only other logical explanation is, he got set up bbig time i mean does this guy make himself out to be a HUGE sucker or something. And then if so, who set him, and twicein one week. That dealer probably knows.... And management possibly hushing up that dealer by technically, 'firing' him. One thing is certain something big happened here and it isnt good especially for anyone trusting Florida to bother playing.

More than once, maybe hes just all peaches and nice and people saw the type of money for w.e reason he was dropping on the floor in bathroom, thought, DAMN is the biggest sucker/ mark ive seen in a while. Too good to not try and take.

dont know him at all, so maybe hes the nicest thing in the world and bad guys spotted his mistake once, and then scoped him out and set him up in the parking lot the second time. If he was set up its different.

Florida DAWG tracks should have real security just like casinos, or let the Big Casinos come in and run the game correctly without jeopardizing the players. So if Florida wants to strangle the gambling and poker and do it this way. Provide better parking lot cameras, bc there is real money moving and 1 or 2 Sheriffs is a terrible plan. Cameras, spend money on technology to make sure very clear cameras exist anywhere running any games.

seems simpl so much of it and they are willing to rake it in but not provide beyond adequate security at the same time. Its probably time to start doing exactly that.

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05-21-2016 , 03:03 AM
Just stop posting, ffs.
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05-21-2016 , 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by CallYouWin
Just stop posting, ffs.

I can see where someone could have walked into the parking lot of a pari-mutual kennel Club Poker Room (Florida) or WPB, some of them are sketchy at night big time...

and maybe someone beat for money or didnt personally like someone could do something like this. If someone was actually setting him up that would be the prime spot. Especially if he is (dont know him obv) just a generally thought of nice guy who often has tons of cash, and drips it in the bathroom, thentells the CAGE, who maybe tells a dealer etc..


So maybe they are related no one knows yet
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05-21-2016 , 06:55 AM
Of course they are sketchcy, I've been to most. Your walls of text flip flopping from he made it up to he's been set up just bury the story. You're right, though, he got set up, it wasn't random.
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05-21-2016 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnNashJr
dont care but made it public sooo some of this story is sorta, wow

and coming from playing only in Atlantic City and then to Florida. I see the differences and when first got here and saw the "5/10 $100 max (State Law $100 MAX (lol)" spread all over the State of Florida bc of the State law. I knew this place was different then Atlantic City. They would actually spread 5/10 Stakes but scam Cap players with only a $100 bi. Made it a pure gamble, for years too. That is the wackest logic ever. Skinning the littlest players by forcing it to be a pure gamble. Rake it in.

Raise stakes make it MAX gamble, then minimize the buy in level to make a sure and pure GAMBOL... pffft. what) so they husled avg. players for years trying to rake the stupid coffers in Florida, while skinning the LITTLE players.

(and the lol Max buy of $100 a 5/10 law was great)

I did know Florida is wacked with the whole poker gambling thing just not that crazy. And the Seminoles being the only ones to run the game in Florida is literally strangle holding players. And really this States real potential. South Florida, Key Biscayne, West Palm Beach Casinos would make this State much more lucrative. Then maybe the little players would get comps for just playing poker in Florida. Actually or even just save the $1 entry fee. LOL husling the State of Florida. Do not like sharing the competition it seems and bigger casino base where theirs rooms for players more accommodations is the answer. Instead of rando players walking out of half secured at these sketchy dawgtrack/pari-mutuels.

Whats also weird in Florida you have Sheriffs in the ROOM, in Atlantic City, even Vegas its like Disney World in a sense. Security and they arent the same presence as the avg. Police Officer and it actually works. Florida you have SHERIFFS sitting in the game, slide over one table if the action gets good etc... another odd bit about compared to other places.


Wish you the best OP sounds gl
I sure hope for your sake that English is not your first language.
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05-21-2016 , 08:38 AM
Dropping the money just gave the robbers a mark of course. And idk what your talking about 1k max. Most 5-10s are 2k-2500 max in florida as far as the ones ive played in. When i was robbed I had mostly chips on me in a backpack they didnt even take the cash i had in my pockets.

As for wanting to play their again i could really care less . Sure the high-stakes Plo8 game that goes there is very juicy but ive gotten myself into other good games at Isle and Hard-rock and Creek. Im posting this thread more for awareness just so people know about it. I was a naive kid who moved down here didnt know to much about live poker and ran into this mess hopefully this makes some one else protect themselves. I wrote that letter in response to their lawyer right after it happened my reasons to play there no longer exist. I think the isle, hardrock,creek are all great run poker rooms and I feel very safe at all those rooms.

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05-21-2016 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by WiCane
Feel worst for the dealer. He is helping you out, says he doesn't want to get involved. Ten minutes later, you go to the floor and get him involved. Then he gets fired.
Yeah. This is what bothered me the most too.
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05-21-2016 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MicroRoller
Yeah. This is what bothered me the most too.
Again ill re-post this story as I explained in other thread.

The dealer was a friend of mine, He knew this guy who picked up my money he owned a barber shop and this guy was a client. He didnt want to go report to security and have this guy pissed at him and come shoot up his store or do something insane. So he spotted the guy told me he was going to goto the floor but would rather not. I told him on the phone im like 3 mins away ill just stop in and do it.

By the time i got there this guy had transferred tables i went looking around for him, never seen him then I went to the floor and explained that I thought i saw this guy on table 9 or whatever table he was at. We went thru the cameras and saw he was there and left.

Idk what happened after that and how this incident wasnt brought to the attention of the poker room manager because he had no clue that this guy re-entered the property. I dont know why kennel club fired these guys and Idk what part I had in it i guess

i even told the poker room manager that i was fine with how it was handled and understood why the dealer called me he was trying to help. Its not my fault the dealer didnt follow protocol or whatever he was told Im sorry he got fired, him and the floor but I didnt make him get fired, I didnt tell him to call me nor did I tell the kennel club to fire him. After i dropped the money i was told by the poker room manager if I ever saw this guy to goto security or a floor and report him he was to be arrested. I did exactly that I walked into the casino and went to the floor. Im pretty sure they were fired for liability reasons either way just because they didnt follow proper protocol. So saying I got these guys fired is false please read other thread.
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05-21-2016 , 12:15 PM
I guess people are wondering how the casino knew the dealer called you.I assume that is why he got fired. How was the dealer connected to you and the incident? No one but you and him knew about the call.
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05-21-2016 , 12:23 PM
The dealer should never have been mentioned. You heard that the guy was there. That's all. You don't need to say that the dealer is who told you. It's crazy that you don't see that you screwed him over. You and D'Angelo Russel would probably get along well.
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05-21-2016 , 12:45 PM
he totally ****ed the dealer over. he didn't do it maliciously he just seems naive and oblivious.
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05-21-2016 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ch4nc305
Again ill re-post this story as I explained in other thread.

The dealer was a friend of mine, He knew this guy who picked up my money he owned a barber shop and this guy was a client. He didnt want to go report to security and have this guy pissed at him and come shoot up his store or do something insane. So he spotted the guy told me he was going to goto the floor but would rather not. I told him on the phone im like 3 mins away ill just stop in and do it.

By the time i got there this guy had transferred tables i went looking around for him, never seen him then I went to the floor and explained that I thought i saw this guy on table 9 or whatever table he was at. We went thru the cameras and saw he was there and left.

Idk what happened after that and how this incident wasnt brought to the attention of the poker room manager because he had no clue that this guy re-entered the property. I dont know why kennel club fired these guys and Idk what part I had in it i guess

i even told the poker room manager that i was fine with how it was handled and understood why the dealer called me he was trying to help. Its not my fault the dealer didnt follow protocol or whatever he was told Im sorry he got fired, him and the floor but I didnt make him get fired, I didnt tell him to call me nor did I tell the kennel club to fire him. After i dropped the money i was told by the poker room manager if I ever saw this guy to goto security or a floor and report him he was to be arrested. I did exactly that I walked into the casino and went to the floor. Im pretty sure they were fired for liability reasons either way just because they didnt follow proper protocol. So saying I got these guys fired is false please read other thread.
Wow and now you sound as if you don't even care he got fired over all your ****. Some friend you are. But please stop begging to get back into that place. It makes you look very weak.
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05-21-2016 , 04:56 PM
Why would you even out the dealer?? That's fcked
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05-21-2016 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
Wow and now you sound as if you don't even care he got fired over all your ****. Some friend you are. But please stop begging to get back into that place. It makes you look very weak.
When the dealer explained he didn't want to get involved I took it as he didn't want this guy knowing he spotted him. The only person who knew that he called me was the floorman who didn't even direct this entire situation to the floor it was a month later when I got robbed the poker room manager asked me about this entire situation in which he already had knew the entire story.

Im not the ****ing poker room manager, it wasn't my decision to fire the dealer for not doing his job. Yea I think its a ****ty situation and I feel bad because he did nothing wrong and he really just caught the snowball effect of my entire situation but understand that I did what I thought was right I wasn't trying to ****ing personally out the guy. The floor asked me how I knew the player was here I told him (dealer spotted him and told me he said he didn't want to get involved for the fact he knows the guy and is fearful of the guy doing something to him or his business) so that's why I just came to you.

Yea in the heat of the moment I shoulda probably thought about it and just told him oh a friend of mine thought he recognized him or made up a story but I didn't because I didn't think it was important.
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05-21-2016 , 05:47 PM
I in no way thought him calling me or him telling me about how he knew the guy or anything related to that was going to get him fired. That's why I told the floor. His main concern was that this suspect found out it was him who outed him. I didn't think he would care nor anyone else would care for that matter that he contacted especially with the logic behind him calling me .

So please call noah carbone the poker room manager and ask him about the situation ask him why he fired him he will glady tell you its because the dealer and floor didn't follow proper protocol. I think its a ****ty reason for some one to get fired but I didn't have a vote in them getting fired also if your going to just troll my post with stupid **** like

"quit begging to get back into that place it makes you look weak" just don't. I have no interest in getting back in if I did I wouldn't have posted this story in the hopes that they let me back in. Your reading a letter I wrote in private to a lawyer
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05-21-2016 , 05:58 PM
I dropped the money nearly a month before I got robbed. they fired the dealer after I was robbed again read the story....
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05-21-2016 , 06:24 PM
Sucks to hear things went down the way they did; sounds like a raw deal. Hopefully you can build your bankroll back up.

Regarding PLO8; why do you think your edge was so big? Were the players that bad? Were you quartering people left and right? What was your pre-flop strategy?

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05-21-2016 , 07:37 PM
Aren't you kind of publicly outing the dealer now? There can't be too many dealers at the KK that also own barber shops and the thief is obviously a poker player so there's a greater than zero percent chance he or his acquaintances are following this thread, especially given the topic is his local poker room.
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05-21-2016 , 09:45 PM
so what did the gaming commission say about all this?
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05-21-2016 , 09:49 PM
Yea in the heat of the moment I shoulda probably thought about it and just told him oh a friend of mine thought he recognized him or made up a story but I didn't because I didn't think it was important.[/QUOTE]This sums the whole story up: You seem to be an accident waiting to happen. I don´t mean it in a bad way, but you come across as being extremely naive. I´m glad you´ve found another game and I wish you every success.
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05-21-2016 , 10:39 PM
What is the point of this thread op? You come on here I thought at 1st trying to show us how bad the Kennel Club is and you show us a letter to your lawyer. That letter basically shows you begging them to let you back in(which us ridiculous). Then for a day you try to explain why you want to play there(because you are some expert in plo and can't stand the thought of not being allowed to easily win every night). Then you recently claim you don't want to play there.

I still think what you did and the lack of caring to your dealer friend is awful. I also think there is more to this tale then you are letting on but whatever. Time to leave this thread now.
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05-21-2016 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ch4nc305
Again ill re-post this story as I explained in other thread.

The dealer was a friend of mine, He knew this guy who picked up my money he owned a barber shop and this guy was a client. He didnt want to go report to security and have this guy pissed at him and come shoot up his store or do something insane. So he spotted the guy told me he was going to goto the floor but would rather not. I told him on the phone im like 3 mins away ill just stop in and do it.

... rabble rabble rabble...
i highlighted the important parts above that you seem to be not understanding.

The dealer did you a favor and told you the guy was there and he didn't want to be involved and then you involved him after you said you wouldn't.

You say he was worried about the guy shooting up his barber shop yet you go on and post, multiple times that the dealer that identified the guy also owned a barber shop. It wouldn't be hard for the guy that found the money to figure out who the dealer is. All he has to do is read one of the multiple instances you mentioned the dealer and think... "hmm... who cuts my hair and deals cards to me?"

Seriously dude. WTF.
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05-21-2016 , 11:26 PM
100% through the dealer under the bus.
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05-22-2016 , 05:23 PM
Ask around south florida I'm a known scum bag theif who stages robberys and tries to get people fired . On top of that hope east coast baller gets lupus he's an annoying two plus two career troll. Done with thread thr reason behind it was to let the public know how kennel handled the situation I didn't post this to battle you idiot trolls .
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