Grover: will this film touch on the AP guys at all?

Also, do you have any idea about the whereabouts of Scott Tom, and the rest of the Montana frat boys? Was AJ Green a true culprit or just a fall guy?

Is hilt tatum mentioned at all in this?

he went to my high school (few years older than me), and always heard he was apart of UB and he wasnt allowed back in the US anymore er something.

I am pretty sure that the belief never changed that he was playing the Potripper a/c in the Marco tourney.

gl with this.


hopefully you hit your goal in terms of raising money. thanks for all the time you have spent on it.

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At this point, we know we have to explain how the AP discovery gave credibility to the UB investigation. And I have spoken with one of the lead programmers about how the AP exploit was introduced. And Leggett. So there will be some. But the UB corporate stuff is confusing and fairly self-contained so AP will be limited.

I agree that AJ was probably a guy who cheated based on Nat's work. We also have a first hand report of Scott Tom showing someone the exploit. Last I heard, Hilt is in Panama, AJ is in Mexico and Scott bounces between Antigua, Costa Rica and Panama. I think the other two are in Costa Rica.

Last year, I hit up an AJ email account that was tied to some property he was renting and he responded to me over about 5 messages. He didn't really offer much and he hasn't responded since. I hit that email from time to time, most recently asking him to contribute to our film.

Has the info for this been released yet?

I don't really get how people kept playing on the site, maybe a lot of the players didn't bother with the news but I would have never touched that room again. I forget when exactly it became Cereus network etc. As to the topic being old, I think this is a great example of when things can go wrong and there should be a documentary to make people aware of the whole thing (for those too lazy to read ?)

I'm not totally sure who all has this, but it is a first account who doesn't want to be identified.

Looks great, can't wait to watch!

Just backed this on Kickstarter. Really looking forward to as much information as possible getting out on this.

Not quite a quarter of the way there, and there is now an intermediate $350 level available. NVG TreeFiddy All-Stars. So tempting...

Not everyone who plays poker reads 2+2. Of those that do, some assume the cheating was taken care of and resolved, others made the risk assessment of playing in soft games vs. being cheated. It's not a big surprise some people played there.

I personally wouldn't, but it's kind of a moot argument at this point.

awesome, thats what I'm talking abut

Brian Hastings occupies the rarefied air of the NVG TreeFiddy All-Stars alone today by virtue of contributing that most mystical of numbers, $350. Thank you sir.

I hope u meet the funding target, cant wait 2 watch this, it will be better than any American Greed episode!

Can't wait to watch. Thanks for your work on this!

Thanks to Shannon along with Michael Minkoff, Steve O'Dwyer, Clifford Donnelly and Michael (no last name) for moving the needle. Steve joins Stinger88 in the TreeFiddy club! Players getting it done.

I've been made aware that some folks are interested in the Kickstarter project but do not wish to be publicized. The site allows you to create a user name and choose anything you like. Just pass along the message that you don't want your name in the film's credits or want to use an alias such as Oscar or CMonster.

not...good...for...poker....

I remember reading a thread by barry g denying russ's guilt. Idk how much he knows about the subject as a whole but would be awesome if u could get an interview with him. I know thats pretty ambitious but just a thought. GL and thanks again for doing this.

soo +ev to donate if you have anything on UB

Keeping information hidden because it doesn't paint the world the way you want people to see it is not a reasonable thing to do.

FWIW, Barry's argument basically boiled down to "Russ seems like a good guy to me, so I think he's innocent." That argument is incredibly convincing, but completely useless since almost everyone seems like a good guy to almost everyone else regardless of their ability to commit heinous crimes.

Not too sure if this has ever been mentioned, but I really hope to see apersonal edge to this. A before and after of as many parties involved, as possible. I am not too sure if that is really the "documentary" way, but I feel like it would add a lot of weight to the film.

As is, I am stoked for this, and hope it goes well.

Will the Royal Flush Girls be interviewed ... I'd really like to know their opinion on the UB affair. As long as it was done in a way that is not irrelevant, sexist, backward or exploitative.